***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[notorious]

Stopped by Dollar General to get some distilled water for my golf cart batteries.


Sold out.....Why? I have no idea. Clerk said people were buying everything....This is in the center of Kansas, BTW.

Good lord, I am almost hope this virus culls our population. If only it was attracted to dumb****s that panic......

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I bought the last two 12 packs of TP in my town and went thru the drive thru beer store and traded one for a 15 pack of Keystone. Doubled my money!

[patteeu]

Before I left the house to go to the store today, I checked on my toilet paper supply and saw that I still have two big packages (54 rolls) and several rolls in each bathroom all of which was bought over a month ago. I always buy 2 or 3 big packages of toilet paper (also paper towels and tissues) because they don't go bad. I don't want to constantly have to buy 6 rolls whenever I come up short at home.

[TLO]

Weird double post

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Remdesivir is being used in isolated cases, but there is far too little data to draw any conclusions. Chloroquine has been recommended for COVID-related pneumonia, but I would again caution extrapolating much of anything from these findings.

Interesting. Thank you.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SupDock

!! 2,547 new cases and*250 new deaths*in Italy.*Highest number of deaths per day in the world ever*(including China at its peak) has been reported in Italy in each of the last four days.
Source:https://t.co/rvbK2lgPzt#CoronaViruesue #CoronaVirusUpdate #Covid_19 #COVID2019

— Covid-19 Outbreak (@OutbreakCovid) March 13, 2020

How'd the US do today?

[srvy]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Before I left the house to go to the store today, I checked on my toilet paper supply and saw that I still have two big packages (54 rolls) and several rolls in each bathroom all of which was bought over a month ago. I always buy 2 or 3 big packages of toilet paper (also paper towels and tissues) because they don't go bad. I don't want to constantly have to buy 6 rolls whenever I come up short at home.

Careful they will label you a prepper here.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Before I left the house to go to the store today, I checked on my toilet paper supply and saw that I still have two big packages (54 rolls) and several rolls in each bathroom all of which was bought over a month ago. I always buy 2 or 3 big packages of toilet paper (also paper towels and tissues) because they don't go bad. I don't want to constantly have to buy 6 rolls whenever I come up short at home.

Prepper.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by TLO

How'd the US do today?

585 new cases, 7 new deaths

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

I bought the last two 12 packs of TP in my town and went thru the drive thru beer store and traded one for a 15 pack of Keystone. Doubled my money!

I'd have held out for a 30 pack of Hamm's

[displacedinMN]

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[gblowfish]

I have a friend named Bill Sellers whose family ran the Wentworth Military Academy in Lexington, MO for generations. He posted this very interesting story about the Spanish Flu Epidemic during WW1. "On November 11, 1918, World War I ended. My hometown of Lexington, Missouri had been largely under quarantine that fall due to the worldwide influenza pandemic. My great-grandfather Sandford Sellers ran Wentworth Military Academy in town. The school was on the strictest of quarantines: sentries patrolled the campus, no visitors were permitted, cadets were not allowed to leave the grounds, and not a single case of the flu developed. When word arrived that the war was over, the whole town celebrated. Church bells rang, bonfires were lit, and everyone congregated around the Courthouse Square. Wentworth declared a holiday and temporarily suspended the quarantine. The cadet corps paraded downtown and on to Central College for Women to serenade the girls. Within a few days, the first student was diagnosed with the flu. By the next week, Wentworth closed and the school gymnasium was turned into a hospital, overflowing with patients. Many students and townspeople didn’t survive."

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

Based on what data? Your gut?

20-70% ultimately getting it has been quoted by every infectious disease specialist I've seen. 20% is with massive intervention.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by srvy

Careful they will label you a prepper here.

Originally Posted by wazu

Prepper.

Yeah, but I'm not a bandwagon prepper. I've been prepped like this for years. Long years when there was nothing to prep for.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Almost 2,000 now

I unloaded the last of my index funds at close today. I think the panic is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.