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08-05-2018, 12:40 AM | #3481 |
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08-05-2018, 07:19 AM | #3482 | |
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I won’t throw stones. But I do wonder what they would have done with another comp pick and extra dollars associated with it.
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08-05-2018, 12:15 PM | #3483 |
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So is Glass trying to fast-track the rebuild? God, I hope so. Not sure I'll even follow if we have 5+ years of this to look forward to. It's not as if there's a wave of exciting young talent about to hit the scene.
Rather than trade every halfway decent player for a mediocre return (or single A crapshoots) and slice payroll to Marlins level for 5 years, I'd much rather see them spend a bit on short contracts to try to be somewhat competitive over the next few years, while sprinkling in rookies to see what sticks. Then when the core guys like Mondesi, Soler, Bonifacio, Phillips etc are reaching their prime and the star prospects are appearing on the scene (and Gordon is off the payroll), they can fill in the gaps. Sure, it's "ideal" to go all the way and build through the draft and trades, but this organization isn't known for being extremely adept at drafting and developing. There's no guarantee that 5 years of suckage and prospect collecting will even lead to .500 baseball again, much less another World Series run. |
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08-05-2018, 12:20 PM | #3484 | |
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Unless we get balls lucky, I don't think we're ever going to find a headline #1 starting pitcher in our group of guys, but as the Royals of the past showed, you can get the job done with multiple 2s and 3s throughout the staff. Whether or not our young guys turn into those kinds of pitchers is a different matter. |
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08-05-2018, 12:32 PM | #3485 | |
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I've been watching the Royals for almost 15 years now, and I don't know that I'd ever say they had a true #1. Grienke was probably the closest. Duffy had a time when he was pitching like a true 1, but he was never consistent enough. I had high hopes for Ventura, but.... Fun fact: Paul Byrd is the first pitcher I remember liking growing up as a kid. I thought his wind up was the coolest thing ever. |
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08-05-2018, 12:36 PM | #3486 | |
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His issue is our rotation went from a #1 to four #5’s. |
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08-05-2018, 12:39 PM | #3487 |
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lol Yeah when Greinke won the Cy Young I'd say he was a "true #1".
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08-05-2018, 12:44 PM | #3488 |
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Hochevar and Davies weren't even #5's. Meche was on his last legs too.
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08-05-2018, 12:56 PM | #3489 |
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08-05-2018, 12:57 PM | #3490 |
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08-05-2018, 12:58 PM | #3491 |
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Duffy just gave up a grand slam in the second inning to the Twins, but in all fairness he did get ‘royally’ ****ed on 2 non-strike calls right before that pitch that would have ended the inning with the based loaded and no runs across. And this ump had a huge strike zone in the first inning. Apparently, he just suddenly decided he was being too generous.
Sucks for Duffy, though. Just not our year . . . . or his. |
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08-05-2018, 01:01 PM | #3492 |
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Not sure why that's funny. There are a lot of guys who put together one good season and then can't back it up. They aren't #1s. He's had some great years since, but not with the Royals.
If you wan to split hairs and say the Royals had a #1 starter for a year, fine. Whoop dee do. |
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08-05-2018, 01:02 PM | #3493 |
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I guess it's the definition of a #1. I would say a #1 would be a top of the rotation pitcher on most teams. He would have been on any team in the American League if not all of baseball. I can't think of another rational definition. No one said Greinke was a Royals HoFer or anything. No one said he was Justin Verlander. Just a number 1. He absolutely was and there is simply no reasonable argument that he isn't. This is a weird conversation to be having.
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08-05-2018, 01:04 PM | #3494 | |
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And he didn't "put together one good season". He had the best season in the AL! (Possibly NL too, but I'm don't recall and I'm not going to dig for this) |
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08-05-2018, 01:14 PM | #3495 |
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KC didn't have a true WS Championship team unless you want to count that 2015 season.
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