***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

So your strategy is to do it worse, that's bold.

You aren't intelligent enough to understand the big picture

Anyway fellas. A day full of weights, basketball and baseball for the kid so gotta run. Stay safe and bunkered!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I have supported risk mitigation from the get go and all things considered I think if they were able to redo this they would never shutdown and worry about the high risk populations opposed to sending infected seniors back into nursing homes like certain dip shits did.

Do you include the "lockdown" as part of the risk mitigation that you supported from the get go?

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Just because I post factual shit about school starting back July 6th and that pisses simpletons off isn't ban worthy. You want group think and you damn near have it at this point after the other bannings.

Simpletons.

This is the most ironic thing I have seen in my entire life.

[Red Beans]

Say what you will about CNN, or the differences between the populations of larger nations and Iceland, but this really validates what tk13 was talking about. Had we had some kind of coordinated response a the national level we would be in a much better position. Instead we got a lack of leadership and disregard for science disguised as personal/states rights issues...

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...3iMk3fODgxMoCg

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I have supported risk mitigation from the get go and all things considered I think if they were able to redo this they would never shutdown and worry about the high risk populations opposed to sending infected seniors back into nursing homes like certain dip shits did.

Thank God the coronavirus isn't much deadlier. If your solution to a pandemic with lots of unknowns is to keep playing it out in public until we learn more we're in huge trouble if we run into a pandemic that is both contagious and highly lethal. If we could do this all over again we should have sprinted toward more PPE and testing faster. Korea didn't shut down despite being near ground zero for the virus. Seems a much more ideal model to follow than a country that shut down and still hasn't contained the virus.

[Red Beans]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I have supported risk mitigation from the get go and all things considered I think if they were able to redo this they would never shutdown and worry about the high risk populations opposed to sending infected seniors back into nursing homes like certain dip shits did.

I think Europe tried this back in 1346 or 1347. It worked out pretty well.

[O.city]

Good breakdown from Florida hospital leaders

It’s more young people getting it, they’re having no problems with hospitalizations and remdisivir is working well. No issues with hospital overload

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Good breakdown from Florida hospital leaders

It’s more young people getting it, they’re having no problems with hospitalizations and remdisivir is working well. No issues with hospital overload

Thank you for posting. I was making a call for this a couple days ago. Someone within the medical community in these states to come out and give us some solid information instead of watching different media outlets speculate on the matter.

[lewdog]

Take a look at AZ numbers today.

[WhawhaWhat]

TOGETHER AGAIN: An Indianapolis couple married for 67 years were finally reunited after five weeks apart – their longest ever separation – while wife Joyce battled COVID-19. https://t.co/VgOSe00YZN pic.twitter.com/ivZmoBXqU1

— ABC News (@ABC) June 19, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Take a look at AZ numbers today.

Good or bad?

I'm guessing not good..

[KC_Connection]

Who could have predicted that politicizing mask wearing, ignoring social distancing measures, and sticking your head in the sand and pretending a pandemic didn't exist was a bad idea?

What a mess.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who could have predicted that politicizing mask wearing, ignoring social distancing measures, and sticking your head in the sand and pretending a pandemic didn't exist was a bad idea?

What a mess.

How dare you sir, how dare you expect people in America act like they have 2 brain cells to rub together.

[Donger]

Looks like Arizona cities are requiring masks today or soon thereafter:

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/li...k-requirements

[Kiimo]

June seems like a good time to start wearing masks