**** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0)

Roster

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1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 So.
2 Rio Adams Guard 6-3 190 Fr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 Fr.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Jr.
5 Jeff Withey Center 7-0 235 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 Fr.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 Fr.
15 Elijah Johnson Guard 6-4 195 Sr.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Jr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 So.
23 Ben McLemore Guard 6-5 195 RS Fr.
24 Travis Releford Guard 6-6 210 RS Sr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS Fr.
32 Zach Peters Forward 6-9 240 Fr.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 Fr.
40 Kevin Young Forward 6-8 190 Sr.

Non-Con Schedule

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Fri, Nov. 9 SE Missouri State at Kansas (W 74-55)
Tue, Nov. 13 Michigan St. at Kansas Atlanta, Ga. (L 64-67)
Thu, Nov. 15 UTC at Kansas (W 69-55)
Mon, Nov. 19 Washington State at Kansas Sprint Center (W 78-41)
Tue, Nov. 20 St. Louis at Kansas Sprint Center (W 73-59)
Mon, Nov. 26 SJSU at Kansas (W 70-57)
Fri, Nov. 30 Oregon State at Kansas (W 84-78)
Sat, Dec. 8 Colorado at Kansas (W 90-54)
Sat, Dec. 15 Belmont at Kansas (W 89-60)
Tue, Dec. 18 Richmond at Kansas (W 87-59)
Sat, Dec. 22 Kansas at Ohio St. (W 74-66)
Sat, Dec. 29 American at Kansas (W 89-57)
Sun, Jan. 6 Temple at Kansas (W 69-62)

Conference Schedule

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Wed, Jan. 9 Iowa State at Kansas (W 97-89 )
Sat, Jan. 12 Kansas at TT (W 60-46)
Mon, Jan. 14 Baylor at Kansas (W 61-44)
Sat, Jan. 19 Kansas at Texas (W 64-59)
Tue, Jan. 22 Kansas at Kansas State (W 59-55)
Sat, Jan. 26 Oklahoma at Kansas (W 67-54)
Mon, Jan. 28 Kansas at West Virginia (W 61-56)
Sat, Feb. 2 Okla. St. at Kansas (L 80-85)
Wed, Feb. 6 Kansas at TCU (L 55-62)
Sat, Feb. 9 Kansas at Oklahoma (L 66-72)
Mon, Feb. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (W 83-62)
Sat, Feb. 16 Texas at Kansas (W 73-47)
Wed, Feb. 20 Kansas at Okla. St. (W 68-67)
Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48)
Mon, Feb. 25 Kansas at Iowa State (W 108-96)
Sat, March 2 West Virginia at Kansas (W 91-65)
Mon, March 4 TT at Kansas (W 79-42)
Sat, March 9 Kansas at Baylor (L 58-81)

Post Season
Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63)
Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73)
Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54)
Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57)
Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58)
Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM

[ArrowheadMagic]

In before your edit. He is a shooter, he gets hot more often then not. He shoots in rhythm and creates his own shot. Size is a disadvantage but is better suited at off guard. Has the quickness you dont expect(white guy) not sure he fits as a true PG, but a guy that if the game is on the line, you'd want him to shoot. Not sure he needs to contribute next year, but type of player that will find a way onto the court.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

In before your edit. He is a shooter, he gets hot more often then not. He shoots in rhythm and creates his own shot. Size is a disadvantage but is better suited at off guard. Has the quickness you dont expect(white guy) not sure he fits as a true PG, but a guy that if the game is on the line, you'd want him to shoot. Not sure he needs to contribute next year, but type of player that will find a way onto the court.

That was the whole premise of the conversation. The discussion was whether or not Frankamp would hold down the PG position next year. I find that unlikely. I think odds are Self will get quite a bit of production out of him through his career, but I don't think it will be year one. That was the context of everything I was arguing.

I'm not at all saying he doesn't have skills or won't amount to anything. I'm just saying, he's got a long way to go to get a lot of minutes year one.

[Silock]

Tharpe is the starting PG next year. There's no discussion on this. Or if there is, there shouldn't be. Now, backup PG duties may fall to a freshman, but I see White or Adams there before I see a frosh doing it.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Silock

Tharpe is the starting PG next year. There's no discussion on this. Or if there is, there shouldn't be. Now, backup PG duties may fall to a freshman, but I see White or Adams there before I see a frosh doing it.

This.

[Pants]

I bet next years chart at PG is going to be Tharpe, Adams, Mason. Next year is going to be all about developing talent and watching another freshman sensation in Selden. I don't think we'll be winning 30 games, but I hope I'm wrong.

[shitgoose]

Originally Posted by Silock

Tharpe is the starting PG next year. There's no discussion on this. Or if there is, there shouldn't be. Now, backup PG duties may fall to a freshman, but I see White or Adams there before I see a frosh doing it.

White is not a PG

[shitgoose]

Tharpe will be the starting PG next year but I could see Selden handling it a lot. The guy is a very good passer and very physical with the ball in his hand.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by shitgoose

Tharpe will be the starting PG next year but I could see Selden handling it a lot. The guy is a very good passer and very physical with the ball in his hand.

Tharpe, Adams, Mason at the 1, Seldon & Frankamp at the 2. (My guess... I see Frankamp as more of an SG than a PG).

[Silock]

Originally Posted by shitgoose

White is not a PG

Exactly.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I just don't think Tharpe is anywhere close to ready for that kind of responsibility.

And it's unfortunate. Tharpe is the PG this team needs. Can drive, dish, and shoot.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by BWillie

For those saying EJ is not a PG. Was TT not a PG either?
Last year Taylor 4.8 apg, 3.6 tpg
2013 EJ. 4.9 apg, 3.5 tpg

Personally I don't think either is a prototypical PG but Self runs the offense with more ball handling combo guards. The point remains though that TT was no more of a PG than EJ, he was just a better scorer, player and probably defender.

TT could get to the hoop off the dribble, which is something EJ struggles with....and which is something this team needs.

[-King-]

I just heard Bill Self's post game interview... holy shit he didn't hold back Just verbally bitch slapped every member of the team.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

TT could get to the hoop off the dribble, which is something EJ struggles with....and which is something this team needs.

Or at least in the lane. But to be fair, when Robinson is down there, there are some more options.

The thing about TT was he could get by anybody in the country anytime he wanted. EJ can't create like that and frankly neither can anyone else on the team right now. If a team can throw a wrench in the works of our offense, our best option is to find Withey. It'd be nice to have someone get in the lane more, but against tough competition, we don't have anybody that can consistently beat people off the bounce outside of the offense.

The real key for this team is to keep the offense going.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Blair Kerkhoff‏@BlairKerkhoff

USA Today coaches poll: 1. Indiana. 2, Fla. 3. Mich. 4. Duke. 5. KU. 15. KState, 20, Mizzou. 22 Wichita, 24 Ok State

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I would put us ahead of Duke.