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**dirk digler** · 10-18-2022, 04:02 PM

Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.

Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT

Sassy Squatch · 05-21-2023, 06:02 PM

Damn. Kind of killed your own argument with that article, I'm afraid. Teams pulling off sign and trades and ending up with superteams isn't the same as 3 stars colluding over half a decade, down to the length of contract and how much each would leave on the table, in order to all fit under the cap. A valiant effort, though.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Damn. Kind of killed your own argument with that article, I'm afraid. Teams pulling off sign and trades and ending up with superteams isn't the same as 3 stars colluding over half a decade, down to the length of contract and how much each would leave on the table, in order to all fit under the cap. A valiant effort, though.

You're right, I'm sure no superstars before LeBron ever talked with other superstars to facilitate such moves with their organizations. Definitely never happened.

Sassy Squatch · 05-21-2023, 06:09 PM

To that level? No, I'm going to safely say that probably didn't happen.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:09 PM

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To that level? No, I'm going to safely say that probably didn't happen.

I guarantee it did.

Sassy Squatch · 05-21-2023, 06:18 PM

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I guarantee it did.

Feel free to provide examples. But I doubt you're going to come close to Lebron, Wade, and Bosh making plans in 2006 to line up their contracts to hit unrestricted free agency at the same time then each take 15 million less than they're eligible for to make it even work.

**dirk digler** · 05-21-2023, 06:21 PM

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First off, basketball and football aren't even remotely comparable in that aspect. It's apples to organges. Way more factors in football with all the different guys that play during a game. Even QBs, with their impact, only play offense.

But saying that titles don't matter at all is even dumber than saying they're all that matters.

I don't think Brady's the GOAT when it's all said and done with Mahomes, but I'm also not going to pretend that his championships don't matter.

That is EXACTLY why I say you're the other side of that coin.

You have to pretend that championships are irrelevant to the discussion, which is an awfully convenient (and moronic) position for a Lebron Stan.

It's like me trying to say that longevity doesn't matter at all. It's absurd. It's all part of the equation.

And deep down, you know this, hence why you are so desperate for Lebron to win more, even as the 2nd option. It's exactly why you hate the Warriors and Curry so much. You aren't fooling anybody. That's the irony of you claiming "you expose yourself in regards to your actions..."

Arguing with you about this is absolutely futile, because you're 100% bad faith.

I agree with this take. I believe MJ is the GOAT as well as Brady but for long time I believed Montana was. Why? It is not just about how many championships they won but it is that they were undefeated as well. People tend to forget that part. Brady for his part just won so many that he has to be in front of Montana now.

As far as Mahomes goes, listen I am one if not the biggest Mahomes lover here but people need to tap the brakes on GOAT talk for now. He has a long way to go so let's just enjoy it.

Coogs · 05-21-2023, 06:23 PM

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He had to shoulder more of a workload because his best teammates were washed Kevin Love, JR Smith, and George Hill, not Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green.

KD got to play one-on-one coverage all series because of that and he still wasn't even better than LeBron statistically.

Isn’t Love starting for the Heat?

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:26 PM

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Isn’t Love starting for the Heat?

Is he not washed? He’s playing 15 minutes a game shooting under 40%. This was a guy who was a top 5-10 player in the game for a few years.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:27 PM

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Feel free to provide examples. But I doubt you're going to come close to Lebron, Wade, and Bosh making plans in 2006 to line up their contracts to hit unrestricted free agency at the same time then each take 15 million less than they're eligible for to make it even work.

If I was privy to the internal communications of various NBA superstars, I would. But there are plenty of examples of superstars coming together prior to LeBron and it would be naive to think such players didn’t have such discussions despite being on different teams.

Coogs · 05-21-2023, 06:28 PM

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Is he not washed? He’s playing 15 minutes a game shooting under 40%. This was a guy who was a top 5-10 player in the game for a few years.

He’s still starting. For a team with a leg up on going to the finals. Probably wasn’t washed up several years ago as you are implying.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:31 PM

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He’s still starting. For a team with a leg up on going to the finals. Probably wasn’t washed up several years ago as you are implying.

He was absolutely washed then and now. You have no memory of Kevin Love at his peak if you don’t think so.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:33 PM

Love is shooting under 40% overall and under 30% from three this season while averaging 8 points a game with no defense. He’s a very bad player.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:35 PM

And as I say that, Love hits a three

**dirk digler** · 05-21-2023, 06:35 PM

Kevin Love washed up at 28 in his prime. wtf. I think DJ was right.

KC_Connection · 05-21-2023, 06:36 PM

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Kevin Love washed up at 28 in his prime. wtf. I think DJ was right.

You think Kevin Love was in his prime in 2018?

He’s also a 1988 birthday FYI

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Sassy Squatch The man you could post like. Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $-1300345	Damn. Kind of killed your own argument with that article, I'm afraid. Teams pulling off sign and trades and ending up with superteams isn't the same as 3 stars colluding over half a decade, down to the length of contract and how much each would leave on the table, in order to all fit under the cap. A valiant effort, though.
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