***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And people who horde tests are selfish, arrogant, ****s that think they are more important than everyone else..


See what I did there?

Oh I saw it. You posted another non factual idiotic opinion that lacks any resemblance of critical thinking. You tried to be clever and fell well short.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

It is a stupid mess that could have been/could be handled more seriously, which would have yielded better results. The constant doubling down on the same stupid opinions, because certain people either can't admit they're opinion was wrong or they cant admit that a certain politician was wrong is exhausting.

The icing on the cake is that when one of these dumb mother****ers is proven wrong, they start spouting off some more ignorant ass bullshit and the previous bullshit just disappears.

Yeah, you should probably stop all that and shut your flapper.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'm ****ing with him so just shove the stick up your ass a little further already.....

I'm ****ing with you so just shove the stick up your ass a little further already.....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Oh I saw it. You posted another non factual idiotic opinion that lacks any resemblance of critical thinking. You tried to be clever and fell well short.

Boyfriend problems on a Friday night????

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm ****ing with you so just shove the stick up your ass a little further already.....

No you weren't. Don't even try that shit.

[eDave]

ARIZONA

Cases: 2nd day in a row, we've hit new highs on every case chart again. Today is the highest number of positive cases added in a single day, 1st day over 3K. 46K+ cases in the state. 7-day Deaths average has also spiked.

Testing: PCR testing is down by a thousand tests today, but still one of the higher numbers posted.

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage absolutely skyrocketed from 9.1% to 9.5% (based on 392K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for this week skyrocketed from 15% to 18% (based on 20K cases).

Hospital Utilization: COVID Hospitalizations are up by 10%, a massive spike (another all time high). ICU beds for COVID patients dropped by 4%. (Overall ICU usage was flat.) Ventilators in use for COVID has hit a new all time high. Intubations for COVID patients went up 25%.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Remember when Italy was the world focus really struggling with the Rona? They have 238k cases all time. Brazil's sitting on 50k for TODAY. Their testing level is still incredibly low too.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Remember when Italy was the world focus really struggling with the Rona? They have 238k cases all time. Brazil's sitting on 50k for TODAY. Their testing level is still incredibly low too.

When political leaders present coherent, consistent information and listen to their public health officials, countries do well. When political leaders have inconsistent messaging, deny facts, and promote conspiracy theories, their countries suffer.

It was the case during AIDS and it's the case today.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Thanks. Can I text you while I'm waiting in line?

I mean, if that helps - sure.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When political leaders present coherent, consistent information and listen to their public health officials, countries do well. When political leaders have inconsistent messaging, deny facts, and promote conspiracy theories, their countries suffer.

It was the case during AIDS and it's the case today.

Can you provide an example of such a country?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by TLO

Can you provide an example of such a country?

A number of countries in Southeast Asia, New Zealand, Iceland, Norway, Finland, among others.

For AIDS? Uganda had a tremendously low infection rate compared to its neighbors, a lot of which can be attributed to the leadership of Yuweri Museveni.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by eDave

ARIZONA

Cases: 2nd day in a row, we've hit new highs on every case chart again. Today is the highest number of positive cases added in a single day, 1st day over 3K. 46K+ cases in the state. 7-day Deaths average has also spiked.

Testing: PCR testing is down by a thousand tests today, but still one of the higher numbers posted.

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage absolutely skyrocketed from 9.1% to 9.5% (based on 392K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for this week skyrocketed from 15% to 18% (based on 20K cases).

Hospital Utilization: COVID Hospitalizations are up by 10%, a massive spike (another all time high). ICU beds for COVID patients dropped by 4%. (Overall ICU usage was flat.) Ventilators in use for COVID has hit a new all time high. Intubations for COVID patients went up 25%.

Double up on the masks.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by srvy

Double up on the masks.

I was out last night with Ivan downtown at a bar filled with young people. I was impressed with the amount of masks worn. I was definitely in the minority without one.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by eDave

I was out last night with Ivan downtown at a bar filled with young people. I was impressed with the amount of masks worn. I was definitely in the minority without one.

Did you bring a raincoat?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Mecca

For AIDS? You know they have a vaccine for that.

Well this came out of nowhere