***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Ebay!Ebay!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Well **** me. Clinton has 3 cases with 1 known so far. Research in KC has 1 known and 2 presumptive.

Our hospital is screwed probably because they are a bunch of idiots. I would only go there if I was dying..maybe

This REALLY ****ING SUCKS.


They had someone there last weekend and didn’t tell anyone there could be an issue. Very good friend had surgery there Tuesday and was at the shop hanging out yesterday...

Really ****ing sucks

[F150]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

F150 posted the link and my daughter is an ICU nurse at Research.

People are ****ing pissed here because they never said shit and we have a large elderly population. How do you not say anything if you are told not to take any new patients?

Question I would have, they say not taking patients etc etc etc.....so where are they telling people to go? And why don't they have this info on their FB/website?


Makes me wonder if the TV station put out a unconfirmed or just a shitty job of reporting....

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Sure not building one for public use but don’t fool yourself if you don’t think the government isn’t tracking this closely.

They haven't been. That is the problem. You can't track it without testing.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

Sure not building one for public use but don’t fool yourself if you don’t think the government isn’t tracking this closely.

They haven't been. That is the problem. You can't track it without testing.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If your daughter is an ICU nurse I hope that's not how you found that info out. I'm not trying to be a dick, but releasing that info through improper channels can cost people their jobs and licenses.

True but the Clinton info I got via Facebook and their groups.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

This REALLY ****ING SUCKS.


They had someone there last weekend and didn’t tell anyone there could be an issue. Very good friend had surgery there Tuesday and was at the shop hanging out yesterday...

Really ****ing sucks

Yup. I mean it is not like the only health care clinic left in this area is not directly attached to the hospital and has a shit ton of elderly people going in and out all day but no procedures were changed that I am aware. they posted something on Facebook yesterday morning it appears that they are limiting access.

Originally Posted by F150

Question I would have, they say not taking patients etc etc etc.....so where are they telling people to go? And why don't they have this info on their FB/website?


Makes me wonder if the TV station put out a unconfirmed or just a shitty job of reporting....

All good questions but the Clinton info is coming from DHSS so it is real.

Our hospital here is ****ing shady

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services announced early Saturday that one of the two new coronavirus cases announced Friday by Gov. Mike Parson is in Henry County.

[SAUTO]

The hospital STILL hasn’t even told my friend. Me calling him was the first he’s heard of it. Hell they made him a follow up appointment for next Tuesday just yesterday.


He’s been in every store in Sedalia this morning...


That hospital is shady as ****.

[Chief Roundup]

Do not misunderstand this post, but look around at how people are reacting with what little they do know.
How do you think people would react if they knew the entirety of the story both locally and globally?
People cannot handle the truth and knowledge without over reacting to the point of complete chaos.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

The hospital STILL hasn’t even told my friend. Me calling him was the first he’s heard of it. Hell they made him a follow up appointment for next Tuesday just yesterday.

He’s been in every store in Sedalia this morning...

That hospital is shady as ****.

So are you saying that because the hospital treats a coronavirus patient, they are obligated to call every other person they have treated to inform them of that fact?

[mr. tegu]

We definitely can see why the government doesn’t trust us to not panic by telling the truth about aliens.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by wazu

So are you saying that because the hospital treats a coronavirus patient, they are obligated to call every other person they have treated to inform them of that fact?

There is certainly a good possibility the hospital has not known for long. I personally knew a lot of people at GVMH, and they were all great people who cared a lot for the community. Most lived in the community

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Do not misunderstand this post, but look around at how people are reacting with what little they do know.
How do you think people would react if they knew the entirety of the story both locally and globally?
People cannot handle the truth and knowledge without over reacting to the point of complete chaos.

Fear of the unknown is what causes the panic

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by SupDock

There is certainly a good possibility the hospital has not known for long. I personally knew a lot of people at GVMH, and they were all great people who cared a lot for the community. Most lived in the community

They knew Monday that it was possible. They slowed down admissions Thursday.
They told some employees Wednesday.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

Fear of the unknown is what causes the panic

If people knew 100% of the current information people would be robbing, looting and other worse things.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by wazu

So are you saying that because the hospital treats a coronavirus patient, they are obligated to call every other person they have treated to inform them of that fact?

Well I would think that is the best way to get out in front of this.

Their first patient was sunday, now a week later they aren’t taking patients for some reason, if all was well DONT you think they would? But they aren’t notifying people who were there in between those dates. Why?

That guy was just in no less than 5 stores 60 miles from there today.

That’s how this shit gets spread to everyone