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An honest question for those of you who've used on some kind of regular basis... how much of the muscle mass that steroids produce are you actually able to keep once you stop using?
If you continue to lift on a good program, can you keep most of it? I ask because i read an Esquire article a long time ago where the author cycled on it several times, rapidly got huge and freakishly strong, but once he stopped the mass melted away no matter what he did to try and keep it... is that pretty much how it goes or have some of you had different results? |
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LVH can be many things. It could be "athletic heart syndrome" which is seen in a lot of athletes that lift heavy, or ask the heart to perform under very hard conditions. Or it could be cardiomyopathy. The only way to know this is to get the measurement done in a pretty consistent basis and/or do things to let the muscle atrophy a bit. The point is, why do you ****ing care? Even if that is the case, whose body is it? Yours? No. So why do you care? No one can ever answer that question. |
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Some great info in this thread. Really surprised we have a handful of juicers here. So fed up with the bullshit that anyone who takes steroids is cheating. It won't make you elite anything and won't work nearly what it should if your training and diet isn't in check already. I have never jumped in the waters but have nothing against those who do. Most people who call it cheating for average joe's to use are just haters rooting for everyone else to fail so they themselves feel better.
I won't mess with any of it until after I have kids, if I even choose to do so. But after that, I could give two shits how my balls hang or if my boys can even swim.
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There's a good sized study being done right now, should have results in a few years...
http://rt5.cceb.upenn.edu/portal/pag...PublicPageMain Are Testosterone Supplements Worth the Risk? Quote:
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When McGuire and Sosa broke the home run record, they weren't cheating because it hadn't been deemed illegal by MLB. Same goes for Bonds. I was at the Dodgers game when he was stuck on 714. I wanted to see history. I went the following night, only to see him hitless again. The very next night in San Diego, he tied Hank Aaron and broke the record thereafter. I should have gone to San Diego. That said, if some of the league is using performance enhancing drugs and some aren't, it doesn't make for a very level playing field. I'd prefer it to be either completely illegal or completely legal. |
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Men like Sean Connery can win sexist man alive at age 70, but I can't even think of woman who won Sexiest woman alive that was over 40. Woman are scrutinized more and we know it. I can't go to a beach and tell you how many fat women are there vs hot women, but I can tell you that women are more conscience of their fat hanging out and are more apt not to go to a pool party, whereas guys have no issue with it typically because no one cares, as you say. They don't care because its more socially acceptable. Plain and simple. Again, I know men have their own issues with body image, vanity etc...but to say its equal is ridiculous.
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Our football has sucked for too long...people are testy these days.
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