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Old 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM  
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Pioli Deserves Props
The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:57 PM   #346
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Stop feeding the troll.
I'm making legitimate points about the importance of the backup quarterback position in the course of winning championships.

If you want to ignore straight facts and documented history, be my guest.

Imagine how fun the 1997 season would have been with Pat Barnes running the offense after Grbac got hurt.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:57 PM   #347
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2) Dave , who wishes injuries upon our players.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:58 PM   #348
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If you need anything more than that, you're pretty much screwed unless you've got a Baltimore Ravens 2000 type of defense.
Kurt Warner called. He wants you to polish his MVP trophies.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:58 PM   #349
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Too bad, he is. You must hate Scott Pioli then. Welcome.
I don't care that he is the backup right now tard. As long as he gets the opportunity to prove himself and then becomes the starting QB that's when I will be happy with the situation. It still has to play itself out like that. I don't hate Pioli. I hate that he has stuck with Cassel and I hate him for bringing in a retread backup QB to be our starting QB, but I don't hate Pioli for the rest of the team being built. I can like other aspects of what Pioli has done not to hate him. I'm giving Pioli another year before I start hating on him that much but if if Cassel looks like shit and doesn't get pulled then yea I will hate him.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:59 PM   #350
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Today's NFL is a quarterback driven league.

Having a viable backup QB is more important than EVER before.
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I love my Chiefs.
Nope. You're criticizing them because they played 5 shitty QBs.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:00 PM   #352
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Kurt Warner called. He wants you to polish his MVP trophies.
Call Kurt back. Point out that he had that same equivalent on the offensive side, that the Kurt Warner's of the world are extremely rare and almost never appear, and that you're still a complete ****ing idiot.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:01 PM   #353
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Nope. You're criticizing them because they played 5 shitty QBs.
It's tough love, dipshit.
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Old 04-29-2012, 05:03 PM   #354
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Call Kurt back. Point out that he had that same equivalent on the offensive side, that the Kurt Warner's of the world are extremely rare and almost never appear, and that you're still a complete ****ing idiot.
Who cares? He's a borderline HOFer and a rare talent. The Rams don't win the SB without him. Backup quarterbacks FTMFW.

Also, TJ Yates.

You think the Texans make the playoffs and win a playoff game a year ago with Tyler Palko?
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How can Chiefs fans be so obtuse?

WE WON A SUPER BOWL BECAUSE WE HAD A BACKUP QB WHO COULD PLAY IN LEN DAWSON'S ABSENCE
The Chiefs won a SB because of the defense and the running game.

Mike Livingston was the thrid string developmental QB who only saw the field because Jackie Lee, Dawson's backup, was injured as well.

Livingston sucked.
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Nope. You're criticizing them because they played 5 shitty QBs.
You can criticize something you love. You wish injury upon the hated.
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The Chiefs won a SB because of the defense and the running game.

Mike Livingston was the thrid string developmental QB who only saw the field because Jackie Lee, Dawson's backup, was injured as well.

Livingston sucked.
Was he as bad as Brady Quinn?
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Was he as bad as Brady Quinn?
He and Jacky Lee both sucked.
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Was he as bad as Brady Quinn?
Again, do we really know Quinn's true potential?
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