***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I hear about this stuff all day long.

Eh, what do you know? I bet you don't have a bachelor's degree in finance.

[Mecca]

Pete is kinda like Trump he knows everything about everything, the sooner we all accept that the sooner we'll all become enlightened.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The WWE now has multiple positive tests......so far it appears their action is going to be to act like it doesn't exist.

At some point, I actually wonder if that's just how it's going to have to be. It's pretty clear that sports aren't going to have a prayer of happening if they shut down every time a player tests positive. It's risky, but I can see some logic in saying, "players are likely going to get it, but we'll try and keep them from infecting others" and hoping for the best.

Of course, if a single player from any league is seriously harmed, all hell will break loose.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Eh, what do you know? I bet you don't have a bachelor's degree in finance.

I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DaFace

At some point, I actually wonder if that's just how it's going to have to be. It's pretty clear that sports aren't going to have a prayer of happening if they shut down every time a player tests positive. It's risky, but I can see some logic in saying, "players are likely going to get it, but we'll try and keep them from infecting others" and hoping for the best.

Of course, if a single player from any league is seriously harmed, all hell will break loose.

The problem with that is wrestling is far closer quarters than any other sport there is...not to mention WWE's history of basically showing they treat their wrestlers like circus animals.

[stumppy]

[Fish]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Pete insisting things are true unless proven false.



He’s so backwards.

It's like interacting with a hyperactive toddler.

[KCUnited]

Not the sport of wrestling!

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The WWE now has multiple positive tests......so far it appears their action is going to be to act like it doesn't exist.

And probably be fine.

[Fish]

Anybody think wrestling fans will deny that it's real?

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Pete is kinda like Trump he knows everything about everything, the sooner we all accept that the sooner we'll all become enlightened.

You really should be banned from this thread by now with the other past warning (or two) and people calling you out on this stuff several times, as you've off-and-on BRC'd this thread with subtle (and not so subtle) political posts..... but, several people have been booted for similar posts (while the Reaganomics thing and others have been more eye-rolling than anything), so please just stop.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well I don't know what to tell you but it was all over the news.

Maybe you should call someone?

Could Statins Reduce the Severity of COVID-19?
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...ovid-19--67629

Major study finds common steroid reduces deaths among patients with severe Covid-19
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/16/...vere-covid-19/

Originally Posted by petegz28

I don't know, the people who are doing these studies on apparently things that are already known???

Sorry, I am not trying to be a dick but it's like whenever a study comes out that says x will help there is a certain few people here who have the same almost Pavlovian responses to them.

You were kinda going that way without knowing of or reading about the studies you were already beginning to dismiss them.

Pete. Pete. Pete.

Did you read the articles that you linked? Well I read "Could Statins Reduce the Severity of COVID-19" and it definitely did not say that statins could prevent you from getting COVID. The study that the article refers to hadn't even started at the time of the article. The article literally says

"Statins’ performance in clinical trials for infections

Although the data on COVID-19 and statins are scant, evidence from other infections, such as influenza, indicate that the drugs could have some benefit."

The only thing this article does is points out why statins may work.

The abstract of the Chinese study that Discuss Thrower posted actually states "however, statins may increase the risk of SARS-CoV-2 viral entry by inducing ACE2 expression" which is the complete opposite of what you said "actually there was a study several weeks ago done in this country stating very similar, that statins could help prevent getting Corona". Pete, you didn't even read the abstract of the study that Discuss Thrower posted. Do you really not understand how that would be confusing for SupDock to understand how statins, according to you, prevent COVID when a lot of old people are on statins, but are still getting COVID.

You are being a dick like usual. If youre gonna act like a jackass and post articles to support the shit you are saying, then it's probably a good idea to read the article. God damn man, you need to take a little bit of a break from this thread. It's got you flustered.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

You really should be banned from this thread by now with the other past warning (or two) and people calling you out on this stuff several times, as you've off-and-on BRC'd this thread with subtle (and not so subtle) political posts..... but, several people have been booted for similar posts (while the Reaganomics thing and others have been more eye-rolling than anything), so please just stop.

It was a joke, relax.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Fish

Anybody think wrestling fans will deny that it's real?

The virus or the sport? I mean there is a reason the south is getting hit harder than any other place at the moment...

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It was a joke, relax.

We've booted people for less. It starts with a joke, but then people basically aren't allowed to respond to you without risking getting too political themselves. So just don't.