***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by petegz28

WTF are you talking about? LA County voted to make masks a law well over a month ago. I didn't say the entire state.

READ!

Los Angeles County never "voted" for a mask requirement.

On May 14th, Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles, ordered all Angelenos to wear masks in public. Those who violate the order are subject to a misdemeanor fine of $1,000 dollars.

On June 18, governor Gavin Newsom ordered all Californians to wear a mask in public.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Los Angeles County never "voted" for a mask requirement.

On May 14th, Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles, ordered all Angelenos to wear masks in public. Those who violate the order are subject to a misdemeanor fine of $1,000 dollars.

On June 18, governor Gavin Newsom ordered all Californians to wear a mask in public.

Fair enough. I should not have said "voted". My bad.

[ChiTown]

My 21 year old Son tested positive tonight. The rest of us will now go into Quarantine mode. These youngsters think they are bullet proof, and that’s just not the case. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, and I have spent the better part of the last 3 hours getting in contact with everyone I have been in contact with this week, and letting them know what’s going on. Ugh.....

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

My 21 year old Son tested positive tonight. The rest of us will now go into Quarantine mode. These youngsters think they are bullet proof, and that’s just not the case. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, and I have spent the better part of the last 3 hours getting in contact with everyone I have been in contact with this week, and letting them know what’s going on. Ugh.....

Does he live with you?

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Does he live with you?

Yes. He’ll be a Sr in College this Fall. He goes to K-State and was in Manhattan this weekend with A bunch of friends. 2 of his friends tested positive yesterday, and my Son went in today for his test. I’ll be shocked if my other Son (19) and my Wife and I escape the plague.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

My 21 year old Son tested positive tonight. The rest of us will now go into Quarantine mode. These youngsters think they are bullet proof, and that’s just not the case. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, and I have spent the better part of the last 3 hours getting in contact with everyone I have been in contact with this week, and letting them know what’s going on. Ugh.....

I understand you being upset but yeah, that whole thing sucks. Hope all turns out well. Keep us posted. BTW, was he even showing any symptoms or what made him get tested? If you don't mind me asking.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I understand you being upset but yeah, that whole thing sucks. Hope all turns out well. Keep us posted. BTW, was he even showing any symptoms or what made him get tested? If you don't mind me asking.

He was asymptomatic. He only got tested because two of the kids he was hanging out with tested positive.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Los Angeles County never "voted" for a mask requirement.

On May 14th, Eric Garcetti, the mayor of Los Angeles, ordered all Angelenos to wear masks in public. Those who violate the order are subject to a misdemeanor fine of $1,000 dollars.

On June 18, governor Gavin Newsom ordered all Californians to wear a mask in public.

Side note: Hows that POS Garcetti doing with the lawsuit he is facing for shutting down gun stores during the SIP declaring them non essential? Garcetti can kiss my ass that ****ing piece of shit

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

He was asymptomatic. He only got tested because two of the kids he was hanging out with tested positive.

We had quite a few positives and asymptomatics at our work and almost none of us had family members get it. Hope that's the case for you too.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

He was asymptomatic. He only got tested because two of the kids he was hanging out with tested positive.

Well I guess that's good all things considered. Stay safe....

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

My 21 year old Son tested positive tonight. The rest of us will now go into Quarantine mode. These youngsters think they are bullet proof, and that’s just not the case. I’m pretty pissed at him right now, and I have spent the better part of the last 3 hours getting in contact with everyone I have been in contact with this week, and letting them know what’s going on. Ugh.....

If he is living with you... you cant get that pissed off at him since apparently you let him out and about right? I have a 20 YO at home and I gave him the green light to go back to work and also see his friends but he is the one refusing to do so and playing it safe. Good for him but I was willing to accept the risk and consequences of his going out if I gave him permission.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yes. He’ll be a Sr in College this Fall. He goes to K-State and was in Manhattan this weekend with A bunch of friends. 2 of his friends tested positive yesterday, and my Son went in today for his test. I’ll be shocked if my other Son (19) and my Wife and I escape the plague.

Well damn. Young people spreading it around certainly has been a concern. Pretty much impossible to keep tabs on what they're doing. And they don't listen very well. Or so I've heard anyway, I wasn't like that at all.


Anyway...keep us posted and here's hoping you dodge the bullet this time around.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by jdubya

If he is living with you... you cant get that pissed off at him since apparently you let him out and about right? I have a 20 YO at home and I gave him the green light to go back to work and also see his friends but he is the one refusing to do so and playing it safe. Good for him but I was willing to accept the risk and consequences of his going out if I gave him permission.

Oh, you are absolutely right that I bear some of the responsibility for not laying the law down. - which I could have easily done. It’s just me being pissed in the moment. It’s still pretty raw for me, but I’ll get over it soon enough.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Yes. He’ll be a Sr in College this Fall. He goes to K-State and was in Manhattan this weekend with A bunch of friends. 2 of his friends tested positive yesterday, and my Son went in today for his test. I’ll be shocked if my other Son (19) and my Wife and I escape the plague.

Damn kids are the ones spreading this virus around...

Anyway, you should be alright man as long as you all are relatively healthy. As you probably know if you have read one of petez 1,000,000 posts in this thread the death rate on this virus is very low.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Damn kids are the ones spreading this virus around...

Anyway, you should be alright man as long as you all are relatively healthy. As you probably know if you have read one of petez 1,000,000 posts in this thread the death rate on this virus is very low.

I’m an old codger, so I’m probably dead if I get it

Nah, I’m in damn good shape for my age, 53. I don’t take any meds, I don’t smoke and I drink plenty of booze - which is a natural vaccine for COVID, right?