***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Pants

Sucks for you. That means you don't go to the Crossroads district or Westport.

Not a loss and I quit going to Westport when I turned 30.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by srvy

I wouldn't set foot in an Arby's. Don't know how long you have been away from areas in the Northland but we have restaurants and indoor plumbing outside of KC jurisdiction.

via GIPHY

[Pants]

Originally Posted by srvy

Not a loss and I quit going to Westport when I turned 30.

Where do you go out?

I'm 35 and it's basically those two for us.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

What do you mean KC doesn't care? The mayor or the businesses?

I don't care who cares or doesn't care.... I just don't understand why anyone would let such a simple thing like wearing a mask dictate their life and where they spend money.

Much like people who say "ermergerd, I had this one bad experience with this one person at this global company and won't ever go there again".... or you could stop letting other people dictate your life for you.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't care who cares or doesn't care.... I just don't understand why anyone would let such a simple thing like wearing a mask dictate their life and where they spend money.

Much like people who say "ermergerd, I had this one bad experience with this one person at this global company and won't ever go there again".... or you could stop letting other people dictate your life for you.

Have to admit if has influenced me a lot. We used to go to KC a lot for entertainment but haven't even thought about going. WOF for example isn't even on the radar now. We may hit up AMC though if they don't require mask at that time they are set to reopen in a month or so.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Much like people who say "ermergerd, I had this one bad experience with this one person who at this global company and won't ever go there again".... or you could stop letting other people dictate your life for you.

Da****?

How is making a conscious decision to not patronize an establishment because their service didn't meet your standards letting other people dictate your life?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't care who cares or doesn't care.... I just don't understand why anyone would let such a simple thing like wearing a mask dictate their life and where they spend money.

Much like people who say "ermergerd, I had this one bad experience with this one person at this global company and won't ever go there again".... or you could stop letting other people dictate your life for you.

I forget which one it was, but one of them admitted that wearing a mask affects their manhood.

Imagine that.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Pants

People refusing to wear masks.

Why are you not interested in mitigating the spread of SARS2?

Largely because they are not intelligent.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I don't care who cares or doesn't care.... I just don't understand why anyone would let such a simple thing like wearing a mask dictate their life and where they spend money.

Much like people who say "ermergerd, I had this one bad experience with this one person at this global company and won't ever go there again".... or you could stop letting other people dictate your life for you.

I still refuse to ever give Cox Communications one penny over something that happened back in 1988.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Pants

Where do you go out?

I'm 35 and it's basically those two for us.

Well I haven't been 35 in 28 years so there is that.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The KC trash better not be coming up this way and ruining the Joe for the rest of us.

Nobody willingly goes to St. Joe. You're safe.

[WhawhaWhat]

The big story among states today is Florida, which reported almost 9000 new cases.

18% of the tests reported today by the state were positive.

Florida *still* doesn't report the number of people currently hospitalized. pic.twitter.com/kF2uC03Qzp

— The COVID Tracking Project (@COVID19Tracking) June 26, 2020

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I still refuse to ever give Cox Communications one penny over something that happened back in 1988.

They're awful anyway, good choice.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Pants

If Adolf Lucas said "jumping off the bridge to your death is now BANNED," would you jump off the bridge just to show him?

Is this before or after America is turned into a socialist shithole?

If after, it sounds like the best way to die.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Is this before or after America is turned into a socialist shithole?

If after, it sounds like the best way to die.

Can't help it, can you...