***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

K so you realize that for the rest of your life, you will be forced to wear a mask?

Right?

I love that those of us that are concerned about Covid and taking necessary precautions are the alarmists and the ones panicking about the the end of the world but this is said with no sense of irony.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Da****?

How is making a conscious decision to not patronize an establishment because their service didn't meet your standards letting other people dictate your life?

If you're disregarding your standards for what matters (the food, the entertainment, etc.) because of something else that doesn't (one person being rude, someone making a mistake, having to wear a mask), you're letting those things that don't matter dictate and undermine your own purpose for why you were there to begin with.


But, guess it depends on your standards... I mean, I've heard people say they won't go back to a restaurant because one person was rude to them, but they actually liked the food. And they didn't even talk with a manager or someone who could make it right (and probably get free stuff). So... because that one person was rude to you that one time, that means you're going to miss out on food you liked..... because obviously someone will be rude to you every time you go back?

I guess if your standard is that every human who works for a company should adequately represent that entire company at all times, then you are indeed making a conscious decision based on your own standards.... and good luck with that.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Is this before or after America is turned into a socialist shithole?

If after, it sounds like the best way to die.

You were already banned once, so thanks for making it easier this time.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

I love that those of us that are concerned about Covid and taking necessary precautions are the alarmists and the ones panicking about the the end of the world but this is said with no sense of irony.

So the vulnerable people who are killed by others acting "selfishly" with regards to transmitting viruses aren't worth the consideration unless a specific amount of them are killed in a certain time frame?

Is it a time thing or just a certain body count that needs to be reached in order for these mandates to be put in place?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So the vulnerable people who are killed by others acting "selfishly" with regards to transmitting viruses aren't worth the consideration unless a specific amount of them are killed in a certain time frame?

Is it a time thing or just a certain body count that needs to be reached in order for these mandates to be put in place?

Nobody is acting, they're only reacting.

[DaFace]

This thread got kind of hilarious all of a sudden. Man...who would have thought that a piece of cloth could spawn such vitriol.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaFace

This thread got kind of hilarious all of a sudden. Man...who would have thought that a piece of cloth could spawn such vitriol.

Hey....you...your avatar needs to mask the **** up please.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaFace

This thread got kind of hilarious all of a sudden. Man...who would have thought that a piece of cloth could spawn such vitriol.

If you could work on photoshopping your avatar so he's leaning against his fist, and set to black and white, that would be great...

[Donger]

Even before COVID-19 was declared a global pandemic, the U.S. began warning its citizens to stay off cruise ships to avoid catching the virus. And it turns out it had good reason for doing so: Of the 121 cruise ships that entered U.S. waters after March 1, all but 15 of them had at least one coronavirus case onboard, The New York Times reports via Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If you could work on photoshopping your avatar so he's leaning against his fist, and set to black and white, that would be great...

Agreed

[BigCatDaddy]

Just curious how things were going with the whole mask thing at Worlds of Fun

[Bugeater]

I know I wouldn't want to be out in this heat wearing a mask if I could avoid it.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So you admit that I'm right?

Definitely not.

You’re a doomsday person on the internet and in real life. #foreveralone

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

If you could work on photoshopping your avatar so he's leaning against his fist, and set to black and white, that would be great...

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I know I wouldn't want to be out in this heat wearing a mask if I could avoid it.

Do you want a third, forth, and fifth wave mister?!?!,

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Definitely not.

You’re a doomsday person on the internet and in real life. #foreveralone

Gotta call out hypocrisy when I see it.

And this is clearly one of those times.