***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[tk13]

Originally Posted by petegz28

All this chatter about Florida and Texas, people need to be looking at CA who just hit 100 deaths for the day.

While everyone has been focused elsewhere the last 2 weeks, CA has passed NJ in total cases and is starting to look not very good at all.

I don't know why you keep downplaying Texas. They have doubled hospitalizations in the last two weeks and their percentage of positive tests has shot up. They aren't the only state having issues but they are heading completely in the wrong direction badly.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by tk13

I don't know why you keep downplaying Texas. They have doubled hospitalizations in the last two weeks and their percentage of positive tests has shot up. They aren't the only state having issues but they are heading completely in the wrong direction badly.

If you're curious why, read the comments on this tweet

Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of #COVID19 while continuing to keep Texas businesses open.

Texans should wear a face covering for the health of their families, friends, and for all fellow Texans. pic.twitter.com/5oWVfZMsph

— Gov. Greg Abbott (@GovAbbott) July 2, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

All this chatter about Florida and Texas, people need to be looking at CA who just hit 100 deaths for the day.

While everyone has been focused elsewhere the last 2 weeks, CA has passed NJ in total cases and is starting to look not very good at all.

687

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Oh and the 10 outbreak areas JoCo is monitoring......I'll give you 3 guesses where all 10 are.

WTF is going on with the nursing homes?

It spreads asymptomatic among healthy non social distancing, non mask wearing young adults until a nursing home worker eventually infects a nursing home?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

All this chatter about Florida and Texas, people need to be looking at CA who just hit 100 deaths for the day.

While everyone has been focused elsewhere the last 2 weeks, CA has passed NJ in total cases and is starting to look not very good at all.

Hasn't CA had some of the most strict lockdown and mask wearing laws?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Hasn't CA had some of the most strict lockdown and mask wearing laws?

LA yes. California no.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

If you're curious why, read the comments on this tweet

Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of #COVID19 while continuing to keep Texas businesses open.

Texans should wear a face covering for the health of their families, friends, and for all fellow Texans. pic.twitter.com/5oWVfZMsph

— Gov. Greg Abbott (@GovAbbott) July 2, 2020

They don’t feel safe leaving home without a gun but a mask which protects against a virus with a higher risk of death than than gun violence is out of the question .

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by DaFace

LA yes. California no.

Throughout this quarantine I've been able to run on the streets if not the canyons. From my limited sample size I'd say this entire time the masks I've seen have been no more than 60% of people. The second restaurants opened up they were full of people without masks on.

It's not just Texans that are refusing to wear masks. I think Americans just don't like to be told what to do, even if it keeps them alive.

See: seatbelts when that became a law.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

They don’t feel safe leaving home without a gun

They don't? Who is they?

Originally Posted by Monticore

but a mask which protects against a virus with a higher risk of death than than gun violence is out of the question .

It is? Who is it out of the question for?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

687

Not too far off the mark...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

It spreads asymptomatic among healthy non social distancing, non mask wearing young adults until a nursing home worker eventually infects a nursing home?

Yeah or we keep allowing Covid patients to be put back into nursing homes like we've seen all over the country but whatever

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by tk13

I don't know why you keep downplaying Texas. They have doubled hospitalizations in the last two weeks and their percentage of positive tests has shot up. They aren't the only state having issues but they are heading completely in the wrong direction badly.

I am not downplaying Texas. I am just not ignoring CA as they climb up the ladder without hardly a word said about them.

So the question is why do you keep downplaying CA? See how that works?

Texas had 7.5k new cases today
CA had 9.5k and about 50 more deaths than TX

[petegz28]

As far as hospitalizations go it appears CA is worse off than TX as well. At least according to Worldometers.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

If you're curious why, read the comments on this tweet

Wearing a face covering in public is proven to be one of the most effective ways to slow the spread of #COVID19 while continuing to keep Texas businesses open.

Texans should wear a face covering for the health of their families, friends, and for all fellow Texans. pic.twitter.com/5oWVfZMsph

— Gov. Greg Abbott (@GovAbbott) July 2, 2020

Welp. I feel like my iq dropped just reading those comments.

[petegz28]

LA tonight after the Mayor supposedly locked it down for the weekend including bars, restaurants and supposedly visiting family. I am sure this isn't spreading the Rona at all....