***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

LA tonight after the Mayor supposedly locked it down for the weekend including bars, restaurants and supposedly visiting family. I am sure this isn't spreading the Rona at all....

You really need to learn to have a sense of skepticism. That image is from NYC on June 11th.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...oto/1219415756

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You really need to learn to have a sense of skepticism. That image is from NYC on June 11th.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...oto/1219415756

Well then I will stand corrected....

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well then I will stand corrected....

My first clue was that it's not even dark in LA yet tonight.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

You really need to learn to have a sense of skepticism. That image is from NYC on June 11th.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...oto/1219415756

My bad, I grabbed the wrong image...


Here....
https://news.yahoo.com/l-protests-dr...172219585.html

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

My bad, I grabbed the wrong image...


Here....
https://news.yahoo.com/l-protests-dr...172219585.html

Yeah, that's dumb. They're outside at least.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Yeah, that's dumb. They're outside at least.

Dude what? And then people wonder why people get tired of hearing all these orders and don't want to follow them.

[lewdog]

I'll go on record and say it's absolutely reeruned for people to be doing this right now.

I hope when it comes to it, in right to live/die choices in the hospitals, we can deny care to people not wearing masks in public and those continuing to go to large gatherings. **** all their selfish needs in states that are struggling with this pandemic.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Yeah, that's dumb. They're outside at least.

Outside and masked matters very little when you are next to someone for that long, especially when the person next to you is talking or yelling.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I'll go on record and say it's absolutely reeruned for people to be doing this right now.

I hope when it comes to it, in right to live/die choices in the hospitals, we can deny care to people not wearing masks in public and those continuing to go to large gatherings. **** all their selfish needs in states that are struggling with this pandemic.

In states like AZ and CA I have to agree with you, lew.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I am not downplaying Texas. I am just not ignoring CA as they climb up the ladder without hardly a word said about them.

So the question is why do you keep downplaying CA? See how that works?

Texas had 7.5k new cases today
CA had 9.5k and about 50 more deaths than TX

I think it is fair to ask about wtf is going on in CA. But I remember a couple of months ago people started laughing at them when they said they were going to be locked down til Aug-Sept. Then they decided to re-open when now it looks like they should have stuck with their first plan

I am really curious where the majority of cases are coming from. My guess is LA.

[lewdog]

I have a therapist who started to have symptoms last night. His mother, who doesn't live with him but is 80 years old, started having mild symptoms last week and got tested. He took her to get tested and here we are a week later and she still doesn't have results. Last night on day 6 since he saw his mom, he started having symptoms of fever and body aches. He couldn't locate a test today as AZ is running short on tests. He found one clinic who can "maybe" get him tested Saturday, while wait times on testing results are out 5-10 days. No way you are going to stop the spread when shit is handled this poorly.

Not enough tests to get people tested now so we are all going to continue to work. We were all exposed to him during 3 days this week.

And it starts again..........

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think it is fair to ask about wtf is going on in CA. But I remember a couple of months ago people started laughing at them when they said they were going to be locked down til Aug-Sept. Then they decided to re-open when now it looks like they should have stuck with their first plan

I am really curious where the majority of cases are coming from. My guess is LA.

Dirk, I am sorry I won't disagree that re-opening has added to cases and I think it was naive to think it wouldn't. But bars only opened in CA roughly 14 days ago. The protests were going on for weeks before that.

I know people want to point to the re-openings but it's rather idiotic to think cases are spiking about 3-4 weeks after the protesting started and that has nothing to do with it. And amazingly the target group this time around is the exact age group of those running the streets in droves every night.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I have a therapist who started to have symptoms last night. His mother, who doesn't live with him but is 80 years old, started having mild symptoms last week and got tested. He took her to get tested and here we are a week later and she still doesn't have results. Last night on day 6 since he saw his mom, he started having symptoms of fever and body aches. He couldn't locate a test today as AZ is running short on tests. He found one clinic who can "maybe" get him tested Saturday, while wait times on testing results are out 5-10 days. No way you are going to stop the spread when shit is handled this poorly.

Not enough tests to get people tested now so we are all going to continue to work. We were all exposed to him during 3 days this week.

And it starts again..........

How is she doing? If she is 80 and it has been over a week that she has been showing symptoms hopefully that's a sign that she isn't critical.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I have a therapist who started to have symptoms last night. His mother, who doesn't live with him but is 80 years old, started having mild symptoms last week and got tested. He took her to get tested and here we are a week later and she still doesn't have results. Last night on day 6 since he saw his mom, he started having symptoms of fever and body aches. He couldn't locate a test today as AZ is running short on tests. He found one clinic who can "maybe" get him tested Saturday, while wait times on testing results are out 5-10 days. No way you are going to stop the spread when shit is handled this poorly.

Not enough tests to get people tested now so we are all going to continue to work. We were all exposed to him during 3 days this week.

And it starts again..........

Damn that sucks Lew. I am sorry my memory is shit but what was your test results?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

How is she doing? If she is 80 and it has been over a week that she has been showing symptoms hopefully that's a sign that she isn't critical.

She's 8 days out and not doing well today I guess. Fever, body aches and started with loss of appetite. I am very worried for her.

And now due to my exposure I had to cancel taking time off this week and seeing my parents this weekend. I also realize this won't be the last time I'm exposed to COVID........it's just the most frustrating dream that never changes.