Chiefs Bucs abused the defense... - Page 25

**petegz28** · 08:27 AM

I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock.

Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today.

NJChiefsFan · 11-20-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

That shit's gonna happen. There was plenty of time to come back and win. The defense allowed TB to score a TD after that INT. The defense didn't get a stop after we scored a TD and needed a FG.

That one play did not cost us the game at that point in time.

I don't get this. There was time left so the INT wasn't terrible? The play also gave them 55 yards that helped set up their TD.

Even if we go with this, how can you have the Kelce drop as worse than the Smith INT. It happened way earlier in the game, which to your argument, gave us plenty of time. We also got points out of that drive and didn't set up the other team on our own 45. The play also didn't suck the air out of the stadium and punch the defense emotionally in the gut.

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Did we even blitz today? I swear today was like watching a classic RAC 3-4.

I remember one resulting in a holding call. Horrible tactics IMO considering that we weren't getting there.

bricks · 11-20-2016, 08:12 PM

It's funny when you think about it?

Even despite the Chiefs playing bad, they were in this game all along. We could knock on the defense, offense but what this loss really boils down to was terrible decision making.

I'm with most folks in that the offensive playcalling was bad, what pains the most was Reid opting to not kick the 54 yard field goal but rather punt and pin Tampa in their own end.

It worked but what if Santos hits that 54 yard field goal? Turns out, that's the difference in the game. Reid not going for the field goal cost us this game. Chiefs didn't lose just because they played bad, they lost because of their conservative approach.

rabblerouser · 11-20-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You and the Alex ball washers on this site are by far the stupidest mother****ers here.

The fact that you can not understand how we don't cup his balls and lick them like you is a testament to that fact.

I've noticed something they all have in common...

Something...

rabblerouser · 11-20-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

It's funny when you think about it?

Even despite the Chiefs playing bad, they were in this game all along. We could knock on the defense, offense but what this loss really boils down to was terrible decision making.

I'm with most folks in that the offensive playcalling was bad, what pains the most was Reid opting to not kick the 54 yard field goal but rather punt and pin Tampa in their own end.

It worked but what if Santos hits that 54 yard field goal? Turns out, that's the difference in the game. Reid not going for the field goal cost us this game. Chiefs didn't lose just because they played bad, they lost because of their conservative approach.

If Alex doesn't throw that INT, then Santos kicks a FG and we win.

OR

if Reid doesn't call TO at the end of the 1st half, then Tampa doesn't have time to score at the end of the half.

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

If Alex doesn't throw that INT, then Santos kicks a FG and we win.

OR

if Reid doesn't call TO at the end of the 1st half, then Tampa doesn't have time to score at the end of the half.

Or we kick the fg and the bucs drive down the field and kick the fg to win. .like they did all day

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I don't get this. There was time left so the INT wasn't terrible? The play also gave them 55 yards that helped set up their TD.

Even if we go with this, how can you have the Kelce drop as worse than the Smith INT. It happened way earlier in the game, which to your argument, gave us plenty of time. We also got points out of that drive and didn't set up the other team on our own 45. The play also didn't suck the air out of the stadium and punch the defense emotionally in the gut.

I remember one resulting in a holding call. Horrible tactics IMO considering that we weren't getting there.

So swap the int and the kelcr drop....

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Or we kick the fg and the bucs drive down the field and kick the fg to win. .like they did all day

There were over 12 minutes left in the game when we threw that int. Even if they drove right down and scored we had time to score again.

I mean they moved the ball at will all day, right?

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

There were over 12 minutes left in the game when we threw that int. Even if they drove right down and scored we had time to score again.

I mean they moved the ball at will all day, right?

According to you we would never have scored .... you need to make up your mind. Either the offense would have scored or they wouldn't have.

Congratulations. .you have successfully taken both sides of your own argument

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-20-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

You aren't going to win many games by scoring 17 points.

Period. Full stop.

You're not going to win many games giving up 24 first downs, allowing the other team to convert 68% of 3rd downs, and allowing the other team to have the ball for 35 minutes.

Period. Full stop.

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

According to you we would never have scored .... you need to make up your mind. Either the offense would have scored or they wouldn't have.

Congratulations. .you have successfully taken both sides of your own argument

We did score after that dipshit.

Again.
We threw an int. Inside the ten instead of getting a fg

They scored a td off a short field after the int return.

We scored a td.

We lost by 2.

The td we scored took over 4 minutes in a hurry up against a prevent style d.

At one point we bypassed a 54 yard fg Because of wind.

You think it's given we would go down the field and score in two minutes with a hurt fg kicker.

I disagree.

Did I cover everything?

**petegz28** · 11-20-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

We did score after that dipshit.

Again.
We threw an int. Inside the ten instead of getting a fg

They scored a td off a short field after the int return.

We scored a td.

We lost by 2.

The td we scored took over 4 minutes in a hurry up against a prevent style d.

At one point we bypassed a 54 yard fg Because of wind.

You think it's given we would go down the field and score in two minutes with a hurt fg kicker.

I disagree.

Did I cover everything?

Yeah, you've gone from can't score to can score....really well

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You're not going to win many games giving up 24 first downs, allowing the other team to convert 68% of 3rd downs, and allowing the other team to have the ball for 35 minutes.

Period. Full stop.

We were inside the 5 and threw an int into double coverage.

No turn over and a good fg and we win this game.

Their t.o.p., and first downs, and 3rd down conversion percentage still doesn't win them the game

**SAUTO** · 11-20-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, you've gone from can't score to can score....really well

They did score **** head. I'm not taking that off the board.

But I'm not betting on them doing it in two minutes.

You are acting like it's a given

.

rabblerouser · 11-20-2016, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Or we kick the fg and the bucs drive down the field and kick the fg to win. .like they did all day

Still have your timeouts and a fighting chance to score the Fg to win.

As opposed to Reid's patented 4 minute hurry up, guaranteed to lose the game for you

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-20-2016, 08:51 PM

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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1105873	Bucs abused the defense... I don't care what you have to say about Smith or the offense. The Chiefs defense got absolutely ass pumped by the Bucs. They got one stop because Winston dropped the ball. When the game was on the line they couldn't stop anything. They gave up 5-8 ypc runs all day long. WR's were running around wide open and no one even sniffed Winston's jock. Blame who you want on offense and there is blame to be had by them and Reid. But the defense killed us today. Last edited by petegz28; 11-21-2016 at 08:27 AM..
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bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9732559	It's funny when you think about it? Even despite the Chiefs playing bad, they were in this game all along. We could knock on the defense, offense but what this loss really boils down to was terrible decision making. I'm with most folks in that the offensive playcalling was bad, what pains the most was Reid opting to not kick the 54 yard field goal but rather punt and pin Tampa in their own end. It worked but what if Santos hits that 54 yard field goal? Turns out, that's the difference in the game. Reid not going for the field goal cost us this game. Chiefs didn't lose just because they played bad, they lost because of their conservative approach.
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