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Old 07-08-2017, 06:11 PM   #1
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Because he played poorly in an exhibition game? As a prospect, he looks great.
He can't shoot.

As a Lakers fan, I hate the pick.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:28 PM   #2
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He can't shoot.

As a Lakers fan, I hate the pick.
His jumper looks more broken than I was expecting but he was the consensus #2 in the draft. The Lakers were starting to get a bit likable with their young guys but worst sports dad ever should help get everyone's hate going again.
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Old 07-08-2017, 06:30 PM   #3
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He can't shoot.

As a Lakers fan, I hate the pick.
42% from 3 in college while shooting 5.4 attempts per game. Dont think he'll ever be elite at shooting but he is an elite passer with good handles and size. Going to be real difficult for him to be a bust.
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:11 PM   #4
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Because he played poorly in an exhibition game? As a prospect, he looks great.
You sound like Ryan Leaf fans after his first bad gm. It wasn't just poor, it was pathetic...

He's a bust bro... Good bench player at best
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Old 07-08-2017, 08:52 PM   #5
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You sound like Ryan Leaf fans after his first bad gm. It wasn't just poor, it was pathetic...

He's a bust bro... Good bench player at best
Who? Ball?

Ok not a fan either, but he had a triple double tonight.
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Old 07-09-2017, 05:08 AM   #6
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Who? Ball?

Ok not a fan either, but he had a triple double tonight.
Yeah, Ball.

Why wouldn't you (or anybody) be a fan, though? Because of his idiot father? He was a really smart player in college and I see no reason that wouldn't extend to the NBA. A very good shooter with excellent court vision and an understanding for the game beyond his years.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:04 PM   #7
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So here's an asinine idea to address the talent gap across the NBA:

A "talent cap."

Instead of forcing teams to make decisions based off a salary cap (which is also necessary), you could have a committee of guys every couple seasons designate "A" players (top 20 in the league), B players and so on.

No team can sign more than two A guys. You can draft them and retain them, but if you've already got an A player, you can't bring a 2nd over in FA. That would have shut down the Heat from forming and Durant wouldn't be in GS. Meanwhile they can still get paid.

Similar rules with B and C players. If you sign a B player and you turn him into an A player, he doesn't count as a 2nd A player. You get the idea.

This would depend on somewhat arbitrary rulings from this hypothetical committee, but that's a hell of a lot better knowing exactly who your top 2 teams in the finals are going to be before the season starts.

It will also force teams to draft better (though the draft needs its own reforms). If you can draft two A players, you can keep them both. It incentivizes players who respond to coaching, because everybody will be hunting for Bs and Cs and looking to turn them into A- and B-quality players.

It's outside the box, but I'm just looking to bust up superteams, as they are ruining the NBA.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:36 PM   #8
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So here's an asinine idea to address the talent gap across the NBA:

A "talent cap."

Instead of forcing teams to make decisions based off a salary cap (which is also necessary), you could have a committee of guys every couple seasons designate "A" players (top 20 in the league), B players and so on.

No team can sign more than two A guys. You can draft them and retain them, but if you've already got an A player, you can't bring a 2nd over in FA. That would have shut down the Heat from forming and Durant wouldn't be in GS. Meanwhile they can still get paid.

Similar rules with B and C players. If you sign a B player and you turn him into an A player, he doesn't count as a 2nd A player. You get the idea.

This would depend on somewhat arbitrary rulings from this hypothetical committee, but that's a hell of a lot better knowing exactly who your top 2 teams in the finals are going to be before the season starts.

It will also force teams to draft better (though the draft needs its own reforms). If you can draft two A players, you can keep them both. It incentivizes players who respond to coaching, because everybody will be hunting for Bs and Cs and looking to turn them into A- and B-quality players.

It's outside the box, but I'm just looking to bust up superteams, as they are ruining the NBA.
that is asinine. Also, your b and c rule contradicts your a rule. If a b developed into an a doesn't count as an a, you could sign another a, which contradicts your first asinine rule.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:45 PM   #9
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that is asinine. Also, your b and c rule contradicts your a rule. If a b developed into an a doesn't count as an a, you could sign another a, which contradicts your first asinine rule.
I probably didn't make it clear.

If you have an A, and acquire a B that turns into an A, you have "legally" obtained two A's.

If all you had was a B, but later he was upgraded to an A, you do not get to sign an A free agent, as you would have two A's and would disrupt league balance.

I know it's convoluted, but pretty much nothing you guys have suggested is a safeguard against superteams. This is a guarantee that could ostensibly land Players Association approval.
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Old 07-08-2017, 01:55 PM   #10
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:33 PM   #11
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Why don't you just ban free agency?
Free agency isn't banned.

It's prevented from being used as an escape hatch for players wanting to create superteams.
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Old 07-08-2017, 02:56 PM   #12
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I wonder why they didn't just trade him for Jeremy lamb and Kevin Martin?
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Old 07-08-2017, 04:05 PM   #14
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I wonder why they didn't just trade him for Jeremy lamb and Kevin Martin?
Cant blame OKC in that. He wasn't going to resign. I feel like GMs are just in a very disadvantageous spot when they are in a Paul George, Gordon Hayward or James Harden situation. You either dont resign them and look cheap or incompetent while getting NOTHING back. Or you trade them as a rental to someone for as much as the market allows and ppl think you are an idiot. Lose lose situation
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That's a contract they will regret, IMO, but they didn't really have a choice. If they didn't pay him that, someone else would have.

I don't think Harden can maintain his current level of play for to much longer. He relys so much on initiating contact and getting to the ft line.
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