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Old 03-05-2025, 08:16 AM  
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:32 PM   #361
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Backloading doesn’t even make me feel better. That just means his cap hits later on will be higher.

Like, cool, yeah, he’ll only hit for like $10m year 1 and $18m year 2, but then it’ll be $30+m hits in year 4 and beyond.

**** this.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:33 PM   #362
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OMG.

I just checked the comps and you’re probably right. Landon Dickerson, who is about Trey’s age, just signed last year for $21m per.

I’m going to be sick..
If we wanted him at $18-20 we might have been able to pull it off last offseason.

Which makes the tag and their sudden eagerness to shower him with riches all the more confounding.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:34 PM   #363
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Backloading doesn’t even make me feel better. That just means his cap hits later on will be higher.

Like, cool, yeah, he’ll only hit for like $10m year 1 and $18m year 2, but then it’ll be $30+m hits in year 4 and beyond.

**** this.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:42 PM   #364
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Backloading doesn’t even make me feel better. That just means his cap hits later on will be higher.

Like, cool, yeah, he’ll only hit for like $10m year 1 and $18m year 2, but then it’ll be $30+m hits in year 4 and beyond.

**** this.
This is pretty contradictory to how you talked about the Eagles handling of the cap. How can you brush off their future cap concerns while overblowing the potential cap concerns of the Chiefs extending one guy in a vacuum? The Chiefs are in much better shape in regards to that.
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Old 03-06-2025, 08:45 PM   #365
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:21 AM   #366
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This is pretty contradictory to how you talked about the Eagles handling of the cap. How can you brush off their future cap concerns while overblowing the potential cap concerns of the Chiefs extending one guy in a vacuum? The Chiefs are in much better shape in regards to that.
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They’ve got an interesting strategy going. They’ve locked up a lot of their core through 2028.

The NFL has an out clause for their TV deals. I’d bet Roseman is banking on a cap surge after they renegotiate the TV deal around 2029.
… it was pretty neutral commentary. In fact, when I said it was “interesting”, I was noting the possibility of it blowing up in their face.

The real issue as always, is how well we draft. I also made this comment:

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Basically their last four drafts rival our 2022 draft.
This ended up being the difference in the Super Bowl this year, IMO, aside from our entire team’s lack of focus.. or whatever they had going on.

Imagine if FAU, Wanya and Kingsley were hits. It would have changed everything and were probably immortalized after we threepeat.
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Old 03-07-2025, 07:24 AM   #367
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The biggest issue for me is that I have never felt like Trey Smith was a guy worth an extension. I’ve talked about it elsewhere if you want to search it up. He was a great pick and amazing value in the 6th, but I don’t think he’s ever been as good as most seem to think. He also obviously plays a pretty unimportant position overall.

I think the chances of him being worth $21+m per year are so insanely low, I just can’t convince myself keeping him is a good deal. Even with the rising cap, those $30m cap hits in 2028 are going to hurt like hell.
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Old 03-07-2025, 05:39 PM   #368
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The biggest issue for me is that I have never felt like Trey Smith was a guy worth an extension. I’ve talked about it elsewhere if you want to search it up. He was a great pick and amazing value in the 6th, but I don’t think he’s ever been as good as most seem to think. He also obviously plays a pretty unimportant position overall.

I think the chances of him being worth $21+m per year are so insanely low, I just can’t convince myself keeping him is a good deal. Even with the rising cap, those $30m cap hits in 2028 are going to hurt like hell.
I'm with you mostly. I felt like he was a guy that was worth an extension but not a guy worth 21m+. When you have cap-rich teams hand out 17-18m contracts to lesser players though, it creates this.

It's like that feeling of hey, I can see giving an exceptional LB or an exceptional OG/C 16m AAV. Now that has to be 22m AAV in two off-seasons, and you're like WTF? That's just way too ****ing much money for those positions.

OG is literally the single easiest position on a team to get good players at.
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Guys, the cap jumped, and is expected to jump again each year.

I think some of you are looking at things through an outdated lens.
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The big question for me is, does Trey continue to improve as a player? Lots of OL players seem to improve past the 4 year mark, if he gets even a little better this is probably going to be a very good re-signing.

If he doesn't, it's going to be an overpay but not a crazy one.
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The big question for me is, does Trey continue to improve as a player? Lots of OL players seem to improve past the 4 year mark, if he gets even a little better this is probably going to be a very good re-signing.

If he doesn't, it's going to be an overpay but not a crazy one.
Problem is Trey is not improving. He took a step backwards last season...But you're right if he does.
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