***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I am not worried because I wear masks and practice social distancing.
The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the few or the one.

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Again if that's the case then the 99%+ of the country that doesn't have Covid should tell you to take your concerns and **** off, right? I mean why should they have to put themselves out just so you can feel safe? Or agai, you could just not be a prick. Hopefully none of your family or friends have such a condition and if they do hopefully they don't know how much you don't give a **** about it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

In the entire state of Missouri 4 people out of almost 4000 cases have died.

Not that this contributes much to the conversation but there you go.

4? You mean 4 people under 40?

[TLO]

Here's the guy.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/06/2...ly-speculated/

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

4? You mean 4 people under 40?

Sorry - that meant to say in the age bracket of 30-39 4 have died out of 4000.

4 in their 20's have also died.

20 in their 50's.

The numbers go up quite a bit from there.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And there we go with the straw man. I state the actual data and "you hate old people".

You're a ****ing idiot. No where did I say people over 70 doesn't count. But you choose to willfully take what I said out of context, present a straw man then go on to act like you are above something when in reality all you did was ignore what was said because you wanted to be a dick

Enjoy your life, asshole

The context is 3200 of your posts in this thread where you have consistently questioned the seriousness of the disease, the effectiveness of every public health measure and the expertise of every public health official that doesn't agree with your pov.

[Ninerfan11]

Disease is turning out to not be serious tho.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Here's the guy.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/06/2...ly-speculated/

Thankfully what we are seeing is it isn't as deadly as we first feared. In general and I say IN GENERAL, as I know some will bitch anyway, I don't mind seeing increased cases if it means no deaths and relatively healthy recoveries. Along with the recent revelations that HCQ does actually help in some instances and then you have things like Remdesiwoowoo and the realization that this is more vascular than respiratory that we start seeing more effective treatments.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by cdcox

The context is 3200 of your posts in this thread where you have consistently questioned the seriousness of the disease, the effectiveness of every public health measure and the expertise of every public health official that doesn't agree with your pov.

Nice deflection, dickhead. I'll take that as you are too much of a jack off to admit you put words in my mouth, accused me of saying something I never said and otherwise chastised me for posting factual data.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Again if that's the case then the 99%+ of the country that doesn't have Covid should tell you to take your concerns and **** off, right? I mean why should they have to put themselves out just so you can feel safe? Or agai, you could just not be a prick. Hopefully none of your family or friends have such a condition and if they do hopefully they don't know how much you don't give a **** about it.

You seem stuck. Again I am not worried about me. I am worried about the economy and society as a whole. You seem to think those numbers are static yet they are only going up every day. Not everybody has been tested. So any numbers are incomplete at best.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Disease is turning out to not be serious tho.

I wouldn't go that far. It is serious when people have to get hospitalized. But serious doesn't mean an automatic death sentence either like some would have you think.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

You seem stuck. Again I am not worried about me. I am worried about the economy and society as a whole. You seem to think those numbers are static yet they are only going up every day. Not everybody has been tested. So any numbers are incomplete at best.

Quite the contrary, you seem to be worried about only you.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Nice deflection, dickhead. I'll take that as you are too much of a jack off to admit you put words in my mouth, accused me of saying something I never said and otherwise chastised me for posting factual data.

I never said you hate old people. That was your projection.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Quite the contrary, you seem to be worried about only you.

What part of the needs of the many outweighs the needs of the needs of the few or the one do you not understand?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by cdcox

I never said you hate old people. That was your projection.

"You act like old people don't count".

Same difference.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

What part of the needs of the many outweighs the needs of the needs of the few or the one do you not understand?

What part of 99% of the country doesn't have Covid so **** your mask shit don't you get?


I like how you keep trying to have it both ways.


You don't care about people with medical conditions, we get it. You're a selfish person.