***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TLO

Every corner of the Earth is populated, to some degree, by morons.

Maybe we just lead the World in morons per capita.

And/or the most entitled morons.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla999

If a kid gets Covid their parents need to set up a play date with the other area kids so they can all catch it and get quarantined similar to the chicken pox.

*runs and hides*

Since it is like the common cold it is not like once you have it you cannot get it again.
Using Chicken Pox is probably a bad analogy since you can get them a second time, it is called Shingles which are much worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...s-coronavirus/

Have you heard about this girl? She was basically infected on purpose by her parents. Then they gave her HCQ and she ended up dying.

[alnorth]

I don't think the main reason why we are doing so much worse than almost every other country is because of the people.

[Monticore]

Our media I think is a little more homogeneous with less conflicting information, not as political and mostly just the data without commentary.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by TLO

I don't fully understand this either. Everyone is all about EUROPE EUROPE EUROPE crushing this thing - but I don't get how. And if you tell me it's all because they're wearing masks I'll link you to a bunch of articles that shows they aren't all wearing masks consistently.

BTW I'm not anti-mask by any stretch. I've worn a mask since **** idk when anymore due to the nature of my work. I just don't see them being the magic bullet that takes a country that is struggling and flattens everything out to almost normal.

There's something here going on that we don't know yet. Maybe a mutation in the virus. Maybe something else.

They have done better with testing, with contact tracing, and with isolation.

Different EU countries did different things. But for instance they did a better job testing people in low wage essential jobs like grocery store workers.

The US passed paycheck help, but the US still ended up with more workers per capita who felt they had to go to work even if sick.

Many other countries made it easier to isolate. From providing hotel rooms to having social workers deliver groceries.

That mask wearing and social distancing became politicized didn't help.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I don't think the main reason why we are doing so much worse than almost every other country is because of the people.

...go on...

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Since it is like the common cold it is not like once you have it you cannot get it again.
Using Chicken Pox is probably a bad analogy since you can get them a second time, it is called Shingles which are much worse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...s-coronavirus/

Have you heard about this girl? She was basically infected on purpose by her parents. Then they gave her HCQ and she ended up dying.

I thought you could only get shingles if you hadn't had chicken pox? Or is it the other way around?

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

What’s going on is we’re populated by morons.

Originally Posted by TLO

Every corner of the Earth is populated, to some degree, by morons.

Maybe we just lead the World in morons per capita.

Can confirm: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=30

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I thought you could only get shingles if you hadn't had chicken pox? Or is it the other way around?

Both i think, you can get shingles if you never had pox but it is reactivation of the virus in your system .

Edit , wife says you would get the chicken pox first if exposed to shingles later in life which can be pretty bad, then could develop shingles.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Our media I think is a little more homogeneous with less conflicting information, not as political and mostly just the data without commentary.

Our population is far more spread out, we have major cities all over the country. Canada only has what, maybe a dozen major cities, and they're all concentrated along southern edge of the country.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Both i think, you can get shingles if you never had pox and it can reactivation of the virus in your system .

Well son of a bitch, now I have something else to worry about!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Our population is far more spread out, we have major cities all over the country. Canada only has what, maybe a dozen major cities, and they're all concentrated along southern edge of the country.

True , but That doesn’t explain Europe or Asia.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well son of a bitch, now I have something else to worry about!

May as well get all the herpes , do it for the herd.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Maybe add a return to work amount of like $300 a week and cut the fed unemployment bonus to 200 a week? You cant make more on unemployment no matter how they want to do it.

Did I read that you've got a mask order now up there in that utopia you call St Joe?

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well son of a bitch, now I have something else to worry about!

Get the Shingrix vaccine although it isn’t a walk in the park either. It is a 2 shot series and a few hours after the shot, I couldn’t lift my arm over my head for a day. Also spent a day feeling like I had the flu with low fever and body aches. Still beats getting shingles though.