***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Sure did.

That explains your shitty posts. Your parents should have beaten you relentlessly.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He has a "Strike Team"

^dudes skipped leg days^

[dirk digler]

So we are back to PPE and testing shortages months into this. Don’t even know what to say at this point.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So we are back to PPE and testing shortages months into this. Don’t even know what to say at this point.

Yeah that's what clicking on CNN will do for you. Blaming the President for not evoking the a a Defense Production act in FEBRUARY.

In other news, I've been reading up on vaccines tonight. There is optimism among some of the frontrunners that one may be available this fall. 100 million doses ready by the end of the year.

Please let the these vaccines be safe/work.

[Lprechaun]

The wife and I spent the last two days at Universals Volcano Bay water park.
Everyone entering the park was required to get a temp check and wear a mask.
Once inside the park masks were required unless eating and drinking or riding the rides.
We went for 2 days 2 weeks ago and then yesterday and today.
People kept their distance, the park itself did a great job helping people keep in mind distancing and also had people near food and drink areas with disposable masks for free for those who did not have them.
The park is at 50% max capacity and never hit it while we were there.
Now equate that to your every day comings and goings down here and you see people crowding, not wearing masks and businesses not enforcing their own guidelines for fear of losing money on a customer.
Its going to get worse before it gets better I feel. Florida as small of a state as it is set a record over the weekend higher than any state at any time...

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Lprechaun

Florida as small of a state as it is set a record over the weekend higher than any state at any time...

what? Florida is not a small state. It's the third most populous state in the US

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by stevieray

^dudes skipped leg days^

As a dude, I am not looking at other dudes legs and commenting on them.....not that there is anything wrong with that

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So we are back to PPE and testing shortages months into this. Don’t even know what to say at this point.

Where are there shortages of tests? Here in the SF Bay Area I can drive to 5 different test sites within 15 minutes of my house and get tested tomorrow free of charge. They are also the latest non invasive tests where they only swab the inside of the nostrils and not your brain lol.

[Lprechaun]

Originally Posted by loochy

what? Florida is not a small state. It's the third most populous state in the US

I guess you dont really see how few people are down here right now that normally are.
Populous yeah its high, there are also a lot of people NOT here right now, one because its summer and 2 because so many re scared to come here.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yeah that's what clicking on CNN will do for you. Blaming the President for not evoking the a a Defense Production act in FEBRUARY.

In other news, I've been reading up on vaccines tonight. There is optimism among some of the frontrunners that one may be available this fall. 100 million doses ready by the end of the year.

Please let the these vaccines be safe/work.

We are back to 5-7 days or longer waiting times for tests and now we are hearing more about PPE shortages. This shouldn't be happening this far into the pandemic but here we are. It is frustrating.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Yeah that's what clicking on CNN will do for you. Blaming the President for not evoking the a a Defense Production act in FEBRUARY.

In other news, I've been reading up on vaccines tonight. There is optimism among some of the frontrunners that one may be available this fall. 100 million doses ready by the end of the year.

Please let the these vaccines be safe/work.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by loochy

what? Florida is not a small state. It's the third most populous state in the US

He is definitely a "team mask" guy.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

We are back to 5-7 days or longer waiting times for tests and now we are hearing more about PPE shortages. This shouldn't be happening this far into the pandemic but here we are. It is frustrating.

I can think of things that could have prevented those problems but that's for a different forum.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by jdubya

As a dude, I am not looking at other dudes legs and commenting on them.....not that there is anything wrong with that



Where are there shortages of tests? Here in the SF Bay Area I can drive to 5 different test sites within 15 minutes of my house and get tested tomorrow free of charge. They are also the latest non invasive tests where they only swab the inside of the nostrils and not your brain lol.

With the rise in cases sprouting up everywhere we are now seeing shortages in testing supplies and test kits. Plus it is now back to 5-7 days to get a test result back which means it is hard to get a handle on the virus on the local level.

As coronavirus cases surge in much of the country, issues with testing availability and access have once again arisen in nearly every aspect of the testing supply chain, local officials and hospital leaders in several states told ABC News -- a troubling echo of the shortages that plagued the nation's initial response to the virus months ago.

Testing issues have manifested differently in different parts of the country, from states in the midst of a renewed battle against COVID-19 and those who still fear one might be coming, officials said.

In California and Nebraska, some testing sites were forced to close down because of a shortage in testing kits, chemical reagents, and other supplies. Arizona and South Carolina reported slower turnaround times for test results from labs due to lack of capacity. In New York, private labs now take up to a week to return test results. In Oregon, supply shortages with certain testing machines are slowing the volume of tests that can be done in at least nine hospitals, and one has stopped testing all together, according to a state health department report.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Just to be clear, what part are you facepalming here?

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Just to be clear, what part are you facepalming here?

The political shit.