Chiefs Practice Squad Announced, Richardson Waived. - Page 26

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07:30 PM

Leave one spot open for Richardson if he clears waivers:

CB Jackie Bates
TE Tom Crabtree
DE Dion Gales
G Darryl Harris
RB Javarris Williams
WR Rodney Wright
Bobby Greenwood
TBD New England/Dallas/Miami Castoff or Barry Richardson

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/09...g_and_dealing/

**the Talking Can** · 09-06-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

That is a problem, but not one you can fix in one offseason. When you can't even fill all the holes in the stating lineup you aren't going to fill many backups. Right now, in many positions, people that would make quality backups are starting because we have no one better, leaving the backup position to scrubs. Of course I know you know this.

This team is at least 2 years away from even beginning to be competitive, so I don't see any reason for all the bitching right now.

no, i agree about the depth....that was unavoidable

just pointing it out as a feature...jackson has got to stay healthy, i think he is already the literal foundation of this defense...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-06-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

And I'd guess they'll continue to look like that until October, if not later.

I still hope Derrick Johnson can do...something, anything in this defense. It's perfectly suited to what his strengths are supposed to be. He doesn't have Gunther doing stupid shit with him now. Dude's hitting the age that's supposed to be his prime, so if it doesn't happen now, then it probably never will.

Derrick Johnson had better hope that Corey Mays is one kamikaze mother****er, because if he's not, he's going to have to do the thing he's worst at--taking on blockers. I'd rather have him free lance as a play-making 4-3 will, honestly the thought of him QBing the D as a Mike in a 3-4 is pretty damned terrifying, because he is one dumb sonofabitch.

keg in kc · 09-06-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

As you mentioned earlier, the 3-4 is more designed to help the run, but will get exposed on the understuff passing routes, especially in the middle. So I wouldn't be one bit suprised if the run defense improves, but the pass defense is not improved.

Of course, another issue that I am having is that Clancy is having his corners play off 8-10 yards off of the LOS, which drives me nuts.

I'm chalking the pad up to preseason. I can't imagine they'll play so much soft prevent-y shit when the games count.

Which of course will open up all kinds of other exploitable problems, but if figure if you're going to **** up, make it good.

The main problem I see has been finding a reliable WLB. The mikes have been playing well, and both the ILBs have been solid against the run, but the passing game hasn't been friendly. I don't know if it's going to come together or not.

I actually think the pass defense might improve with the maturation of the young DBs, but who knows. If Flowers is out for any length of time, that's going to hurt in a big way I think.

splatbass · 09-06-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I don't give a shit if they are ranked 20th.

If it their so-called "improvement" doesn't lead to wins, who gives a shit.

31st last year, say they get to 25th this year, but still go 2-14.

Were they really improved?

THEY AREN'T GOING TO COMPETE FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR, NO MATTER WHAT. All we can ask for is that they improve. If you expect a 2-14 team to be good 7 months after a complete purge of the front office then you are expecting way too much.

If the defense improves to 20th this year that will be a huge step on the path to rebuilding this team. If the offense improves at all it will be a step on the path. This will take a couple of years. Relax a little.

**the Talking Can** · 09-06-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

And I'd guess they'll continue to look like that until October, if not later.

I still hope Derrick Johnson can do...something, anything in this defense. It's perfectly suited to what his strengths are supposed to be. He doesn't have Gunther doing stupid shit with him now. Dude's hitting the age that's supposed to be his prime, so if it doesn't happen now, then it probably never will.

man, he should thrive....but he still disappears....i will never understand how he wasn't a better player with that much natural talent...

i bet we don't resign him, or low ball him...

we need like 7 new lbs eventually....shit, lol

**doomy3** · 09-06-2009, 10:48 PM

On the depth, it depends what position you are talking about.

Our depth on the DLine is much better than it was last year.

Our depth at CB is better than last year.

Our depth at QB is better than last year.

Our depth at LB is probably better than last year.

Yeah, we need more depth at postions like OL, WR, RB, S, but we have added depth at some key positions this offseason.

keg in kc · 09-06-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Derrick Johnson had better hope that Corey Mays is one kamikaze mother****er, because if he's not, he's going to have to do the thing he's worst at--taking on blockers. I'd rather have him free lance as a play-making 4-3 will, honestly the thought of him QBing the D as a Mike in a 3-4 is pretty damned terrifying, because he is one dumb sonofabitch.

It looks to me like Mays has been playing the mike. Although both of them looked good against the run before DJ was injured (yes, even DJ).

I don't think having Monty Beisel and Demorrio Williams in there with the ones has done any favors for the pass defense the last couple of weeks.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-06-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

For sake of argument, let's say the defense improves from 31st to 20th. They get more takeaways, hold teams to fewer yards, get more than 20 sacks.

But the offense really really sucks and we get one win.

Does that mean the defense didn't improve?

First, all those things SHOULD happen, as it's almost impossible to be statistically worse than last year. So as I pointed out, they will have "improved" by statistical definition.

I ran a 5k last year, and finished dead last. When I run it this year, should I be content if my time improves, but I still finish last?

Statistically, I improved, but I still ****ing suck compared to my peers.

Coach · 09-06-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

First, all those things SHOULD happen, as it's almost impossible to be statistically worse than last year. So as I pointed out, they will have "improved" by statistical definition.

I ran a 5k last year, and finished dead last. When I run it this year, should I be content if my time improves, but I still finish last?

Statistically, I improved, but I still ****ing suck compared to my peers.

But at the same time, perhaps the talent level improved at the same time?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-06-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

THEY AREN'T GOING TO COMPETE FOR ANYTHING THIS YEAR, NO MATTER WHAT. All we can ask for is that they improve. If you expect a 2-14 team to be good 7 months after a complete purge of the front office then you are expecting way too much.

If the defense improves to 20th this year that will be a huge step on the path to rebuilding this team. If the offense improves at all it will be a step on the path. This will take a couple of years. Relax a little.

Amazing the turn that's been taken around here.

Just a few months ago, we were going to be competitive, maybe even contend for the division.

Now people see the product on the field, and are asking for time.

I've said they were going to suck all along. This isn't a surprise.

I'm sorry, but you're full of shit if you can honestly say that this is what you expected when Pioli was hired.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-06-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It looks to me like Mays has been playing the mike. Although both of them looked good against the run before DJ was injured (yes, even DJ).

I don't think having Monty Beisel and Demorrio Williams in there with the ones has done any favors for the pass defense the last couple of weeks.

I've never seen Mays and DJ on the field at the same time, but if they both are, Mays should be the Ted. He's bigger, less athletic, and just appears to be a tougher player who doesn't care about nailing a FB or a guard. DJ needs space to operate. With his talent, he really could play LOLB or Mike in this scheme, but that ****ing one who sucks the penis Mack Brown...

Hammock Parties · 09-06-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Derrick Johnson had better hope that Corey Mays is one kamikaze mother****er, because if he's not, he's going to have to do the thing he's worst at--taking on blockers. I'd rather have him free lance as a play-making 4-3 will, honestly the thought of him QBing the D as a Mike in a 3-4 is pretty damned terrifying, because he is one dumb sonofabitch.

You're completely ignoring the fact that DJ's position in this scheme pretty much calls for him to freelance. He's supposed to run free.

**the Talking Can** · 09-06-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Amazing the turn that's been taken around here.

Just a few months ago, we were going to be competitive, maybe even contend for the division.

Now people see the product on the field, and are asking for time.

I've said they were going to suck all along. This isn't a surprise.

I'm sorry, but your full of shit if you can honestly say that this is what you expected when Pioli was hired.

most people knew we'd still suck this year...because it was obvious, and most people aren't as stupid as you pretend

you're inflating numbers as usual....and pretending you alone saw the truth is typical bullshit....

splatbass · 09-06-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Amazing the turn that's been taken around here.

Just a few months ago, we were going to be competitive, maybe even contend for the division.

Now people see the product on the field, and are asking for time.

I've said they were going to suck all along. This isn't a surprise.

I'm sorry, but you're full of shit if you can honestly say that this is what you expected when Pioli was hired.

I don't think anyone expected the Chiefs to compete this year. You seem to be pissed that they won't though, so which of us is being unrealistic?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-06-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

No time. But I don't think he's going to have a good season.

I expect Magee will replace him as a starter before long. He looks much quicker/more active.

No time? Yet you have time to run a ****ing Iowa Caucus against Pollard?

Let me put this as succinctly and directly as I can:

Eat Dick.

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