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Old 03-14-2013, 11:12 AM  
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #376
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Hudson?

Then his leg died.
God damn it. Thats it
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #377
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Somebody else realizes the demise of this Oline.
Don't get too excited; I'd still go after D-linemen in this draft (presuming Geno is a non-entity).

I just realize that the O-Line is a little neglected right now.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #378
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If we can move the money around, go sign Osi now, if he could play DE.
Osi wants to start. Hes not gonna start here.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:54 PM   #379
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It will work out well enough for them not to look like idiots to 90+% of the fans.

They've added some nice touches to an already promising racecar. Unfortunately, it has a restrictor plate on it.
ya know what? the other 10% of the fans can go stick a broncos helmet up their ass. We don't want em, we don't need em.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:56 PM   #380
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How does he have better weapons? All he has here is Bowe and Charles. That's not exactly a lot better than Crabtree, Davis and Gore.
Bowe and Avery are better than anyone he's had up until Crabtree emerged this past season and Crabtree certainly isn't in the Top 5 of all NFL WR's at this point. Moeaki and Fasano should equal Davis and Delaney Walker, the king of drops.

Before 2011, Crabtree and Davis were big time underachievers. Mike Singletary was all over both of them and even had to "moon" Davis to get his attention. Crabtree improved dramatically in 2012 but he wasn't a big help before last season.

The bottom line with Smith is that before 2011, he was dealing with poor coaching, a porous offensive line and average at best perimeter players. Once a few of those things were in place, his game became better.

That said, he's not Keapernick or Newton or RGIII or Luck or Manning or Brady. I think he can be a Matt Schaub or Matt Ryan (or even Trent Green) type of QB that when surrounded by average to above average talent, can win enough games to be a playoff contender, if not playoff winner.

I think Super Bowl QB is a bit of a stretch but we've definitely seen our share of game managing Super Bowl QB's in the past, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:56 PM   #381
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And Vollmer would make me a very happy camper today!
Vollmer would just crack me up.

At that point it would just be a massive middle-finger to every draft guru out there.

"Oh yeah? What the !@#$ do you have to say now?"

At that point, Floyd/Richardson/Mingo would truly be a no-brainer.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #382
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That Kansas City defense has some serious pieces with Poe, Jackson, Houston, Hali, Johnson, Flowers, Robinson, Berry and now Smith.
I sure as hell hope so since we have Alex 'Game Manager' Smith at QB now. The defense better be able to hold teams in check to give us a chance to win games.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #383
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And Manningham, Hunter, Williams, Moss and James.

Some of those are stretches but as far as talent goes, they rape us.

Bowe
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Manningham wasn't a factor, Hunter, William and Moss are "meh" IMO.

Agree to disagree.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:59 PM   #384
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There is nothing more depressing than the Alex smith trade .believe me I live in California surrounded by niners fans.I hope he stays here for some years,guaranteed top five picks if he starts.
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:59 PM   #385
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The Chiefs really helped the secondary adding Sean Smith to the outside and Dunta Robinson in the slot.
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1. Outside of 2011, his offensive line sucked ass. There was a reason they took two first round offensive lineman a few years back. They were awful. His perimeter players were nothing to write home about, either.

2. See number one. But I am also slightly concerned about the concussion issue but hopefully, the Chiefs coach him better in that regard.

Lastly, I don't care about the compensation. The Chiefs did what they felt they needed to do get a starting QB in 2013. As the Chiefs history of drafting shows, there's no guarantee that they would have selected a starter with #34 overall, anyway.
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He's never been as successful as 2010 or 2008 Matt Cassel.

He throws the ball down the field less than Cassel.

He takes a lot of necessary sacks.

Facts.
You're right.

But it's also fair to note that he's never had Bill Belichick, McDaniels or Charlie Weis coaching him, nor has he had Wes Welker, a younger Randy Moss or a Dwayne Bowe as WR's.

It's not a simple 1:1 equation.
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Manningham wasn't a factor, Hunter, William and Moss are "meh" IMO.

Agree to disagree.
I really like Kendall Hunter.

How many games did Manningham play before he got hurt, I can't recall.

I agree that Williams and Moss are average players but they sure beat the hell out of Jon Baldwin, DMC, Newsome, and Copper.
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Vollmer would just crack me up.

At that point it would just be a massive middle-finger to every draft guru out there.

"Oh yeah? What the !@#$ do you have to say now?"

At that point, Floyd/Richardson/Mingo would truly be a no-brainer.
Im not sure how Floyd/Richardson/Mingo become no brainers. I think it would make the draft a helluva lot more exciting though. If they signed Vollmer, my 1st choice would be a 3rd pass rusher. It'd look especially brilliant if Hali continues to decline.
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