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Old 01-16-2015, 10:40 PM  
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LNBS: Can Alex Smith be "Fixed"?
Part of me wants to think so.

We saw flashes in 2013 of him testing defenses downfield and being a lot more than a game manager.

Then his OL got severely downgraded through 3 big losses in free agency (all 3 got overpaid) and his 2 guards weren't even nfl quality, let alone starter quality.

His receivers needed a major upgrade last offseason (they were an obvious team weakness) and other than adding Jason Avant late in the year and developing a promising rookie in Albert Wilson...not a whole lot was done to help provide Alex Smith with adequate weapons. Losing Avery to injury further weakened an already subpar unit.

Here's my question:

If they improve the OL and receivers...will we see Alex Smith come out of his shell again (like we saw flashes of in the second half of 2013)?

If he does, how far can this team go if the defense plays like it has and Dee Ford steps into Hali's shoes adequately?
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Old 01-18-2015, 02:52 PM   #376
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You can't really blame Alex for being gun-shy with this OL. Fix the OL and we are better suited for success at this point.
False. His sack rate during the first 2.5 seconds in the pocket is below the NFL average. No need for him to be gun shy.

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Old 01-18-2015, 02:53 PM   #377
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You can't really blame Alex for being gun-shy with this OL. Fix the OL and we are better suited for success at this point.
Yeah, you can.

The OL isn't nearly as bad as Alex makes it look.

Also, he's a goddamn professional. If he's scared, he needs to ****ing quit.
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Old 01-18-2015, 02:53 PM   #378
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False. His sack rate during the first 2.5 seconds in the pocket is below the NFL average. No need for him to be gun shy.

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and does he have WR that get open within those 2.5 seconds?
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Old 01-18-2015, 02:58 PM   #379
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Smith has made some bad decisions with the ball. However, I like the idea of building the team around the QB position, then , regardless of Alex' level of success, the team will be ready for his replacement.

This is the route we'll be forced to take.

It's a good plan anyway. That's what some idiots don't really understand about the game. Discuss would have us trade Houston, Poe, and Jamaal because we don't have an elite QB. But what happens in 3 years when we've got the guy? We've got no talent to surround him with.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:01 PM   #380
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and does he have WR that get open within those 2.5 seconds?
NFL open, yes. Alex Smith open, no.

But clearly he is better off throwing the ball within the first 2.5 seconds than holding on to it longer. The data points to him not seeing the field well and not being a QB who can make things happen.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:03 PM   #381
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Idk man I'm worried about this run defense.
I don't mind the "bend but don't break" philosophy that Sutton employed in defending the run. They were the best against allowing rushing TD's as well as the amazing job they did against the pass.

As well, considering that they lost Johnson, Berry and DeVito early in the season and those three were the best run defenders on the team, I think that they did an admirable job.

They should be better next year defensively, IMO.

They just need the upgrades at two OL positions and a solid receiver that fits the system.
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:07 PM   #382
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False. His sack rate during the first 2.5 seconds in the pocket is below the NFL average. No need for him to be gun shy.

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This is such a flawed stat. Are the WR's open? Nope. How often was a TE (or multiple TE's) used to block to give the QB more time, thus taking away multiple receiving threats?

Alex has his faults, but you can't possibly be giving this OL a pass. The worst rated G accompanied by 72nd ranked LT and 64th ranked G are supposably now doing a fine job?

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Old 01-18-2015, 03:11 PM   #383
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You're an idiot.

I asked because I was going to mention the line on the Packers most recent Super Bowl run.
Is there an Aaron Rogers available? No, so WTF is your point?
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Old 01-18-2015, 03:26 PM   #384
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Wll we wouldnt have be tied into a steaming pile of shit for 5 years of my life so yeah Geno would have been a better move given the flexibilty he gives you to add better pieces or move on to the. next guy
Andy Reid's offense in one of the most complicated in the NFL. It takes a smart QB to run it, one that can read defenses well. Geno Smith is not that QB.
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Smith has made some bad decisions with the ball. However, I like the idea of building the team around the QB position, then , regardless of Alex' level of success, the team will be ready for his replacement.
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This is such a flawed stat. Are the WR's open? Nope. How often was a TE (or multiple TE's) used to block to give the QB more time, thus taking away multiple receiving threats?

Alex has his faults, but you can't possibly be giving this OL a pass. The worst rated G accompanied by 72nd ranked LT and 64th ranked G are supposably now doing a fine job?

PFF for ya folks.
Wait, so you use PFF to rank the gusrds, but shit on the other metric?
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Is there an Aaron Rogers available? No, so WTF is your point?

You asked a question and I was going to attempt to answer it based on your criteria.

You're acting like a butthurt pussy.
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Wait, so you use PFF to rank the gusrds, but shit on the other metric?
The guard rankings are a subjective metric.

The other stuff is just data, unless you think they can't operate a stop watch.
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The guard rankings are a subjective metric.

The other stuff is just data, unless you think they can't operate a stop watch.
So then they are doing their job and shouldn't be ranked so poorly as individuals.

PFF has contradicted themselves yet again.
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