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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-12-2015, 01:43 PM   #376
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So? Terrence Gore played last year and he was probably 3 years from the show then. Doesnt mean much.
LOL. I was just kidding, man.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:59 PM   #377
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I would imagine GMDM would be hesitant to deal much more in terms of depth in the minors. This year's trades diminished the system somewhat (which I'm fine with...it was perfectly appropriate.)

If Gordon departs, what do you think about Rajai Davis? I know he's fast, but don't know what else he brings.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:11 PM   #378
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I would imagine GMDM would be hesitant to deal much more in terms of depth in the minors. This year's trades diminished the system somewhat (which I'm fine with...it was perfectly appropriate.)

If Gordon departs, what do you think about Rajai Davis? I know he's fast, but don't know what else he brings.
Not a fan. His D is average and his main value is his speed on the bases, IMO. He just turned 35.....Pass.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:42 PM   #379
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Good Rolling Stone interview with Hosmer.

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And then you got to celebrate with a victory parade in Kansas City. What was it like to be in the middle of all that?
Honestly, it all kind of played out like a movie; when we got closer to the big leagues, all you heard in the Midwest was, "Kansas City is such a baseball town, if you guys can win there, you'll see. It'll be just like St. Louis." And we start having some success, playing in back-to-back Series and you saw it happening. So during that parade, I was thinking back to every person who ever told me how great the fans were in Kansas City and realizing how true it really was. We're talking 800,000 people at the parade, people leaving their cars on the side of the road. Madness. The people in Kansas City, they go crazy. Every street corner you turned, you'd see a flood of people, then you'd look past a building and see even more. It was, like, wave after wave of people. And then, up on the stage, you could probably go back, like, five football fields, and it was all people in Royal blue.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:53 PM   #380
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:34 PM   #381
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I'm pretty sure I'm being trolled badly by some supreme being when I read shit like that.
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Old 11-12-2015, 03:48 PM   #382
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I'm pretty sure I'm being trolled badly by some supreme being when I read shit like that.
I love it when sports writers act like Miami and Houston are small market teams.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:00 PM   #383
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I love it when sports writers act like Miami and Houston are small market teams.
Yeah, someone is going to have to explain that to me. In what ****ing world is HOU a small market team? I can see why someone might consider Miami a small market team due to population in Miami proper, but that still doesn't really jive with me, because the Miami metro area is +5MM.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:05 PM   #384
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I must be missing something. Miami (28) and Houston (30) had two of the three lowest revenue totals last year. Of course they're "small market" as we know the term In baseball. If that term bothers you then use small revenue. Same ultimate message: they're broke.

Royals were 16 by the way at $231m vs Hou at $175m
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Here's an interesting option. Passan references his profile as "Royals type" at the end.

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Old 11-12-2015, 04:16 PM   #386
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Looks like Rany agrees with me that we should sell out for the next couple years.








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Old 11-12-2015, 04:19 PM   #387
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If you're going to go for it, you go all in. GMDM has demonstrated that he clearly understands this.

Either they're going to go balls to the wall while the nucleus is together (Gordon + Zobrist + really good SP), or make moves to position themselves for a smoother transition when these guys leave, meaning that 2017's trade deadline could be heartbreaking.
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Old 11-12-2015, 04:22 PM   #388
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Yeah well we've seen how well the "let's be indefinitely mediocre and hope everyone has a career year at the same time" strategy has worked for the Chiefs.
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Heyward/Gordon/Zobrist/Latos

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$200MM payroll? Sounds legit
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