***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

I’m skeptical but that would be awesome

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

We
believe spread of COVID-19 in these geographies has peaked and is now in irrevocable, sustained decline.[/B][/I]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ws6...kSK3OS5l44ASqc

Man, wouldn't that be great?!

[F150]

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...mmune-response

An investigational vaccine, mRNA-1273, designed to protect against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), was generally well tolerated and prompted neutralizing antibody activity in healthy adults, according to interim results published online today in The New England Journal of Medicine. The ongoing Phase 1 trial is supported by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. The experimental vaccine is being co-developed by researchers at NIAID and at Moderna, Inc. of Cambridge, Massachusetts. Manufactured by Moderna, mRNA-1273 is designed to induce neutralizing antibodies directed at a portion of the coronavirus “spike” protein, which the virus uses to bind to and enter human cells.

The trial was led by Lisa A. Jackson, M.D., MPH, of Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute in Seattle, where the first participant received the candidate vaccine on March 16. This interim report details the initial findings from the first 45 participants ages 18 to 55 years enrolled at the study sites in Seattle and at Emory University in Atlanta. Three groups of 15 participants received two intramuscular injections, 28 days apart, of either 25, 100 or 250 micrograms (mcg) of the investigational vaccine. All the participants received one injection; 42 received both scheduled injections.

In April, the trial was expanded to enroll adults older than age 55 years; it now has 120 participants. However, the newly published results cover the 18 to 55-year age group only.

Regarding safety, no serious adverse events were reported. More than half of the participants reported fatigue, headache, chills, myalgia or pain at the injection site. Systemic adverse events were more common following the second vaccination and in those who received the highest vaccine dose. Data on side effects and immune responses at various vaccine dosages informed the doses used or planned for use in the Phase 2 and 3 clinical trials of the investigational vaccine.

The interim analysis includes results of tests measuring levels of vaccine-induced neutralizing activity through day 43 after the second injection. Two doses of vaccine prompted high levels of neutralizing antibody activity that were above the average values seen in convalescent sera obtained from persons with confirmed COVID-19 disease.

A Phase 2 clinical trial of mRNA-1273, sponsored by Moderna, began enrollment in late May. Plans are underway to launch a Phase 3 efficacy trial in July 2020.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’m skeptical but that would be awesome

I think we are in a very crucial moment on how we approach this and the data is what people need to focus on. Prior to this recent surge in cases the peak date of cases was April 24th. The peak date for deaths was April 21st. Ironically deaths peaked before cases.


That being said we have been seeing cases rise since June 13th. We have been setting new records for cases since June 25th. Thankfully deaths have not risen anywhere close tot he pace that cases are. The other day we ticked over 1,000 deaths for the first time in several weeks but even that was only by 2 or 3 deaths.

Point being we are not seeing a NY style outcome thus far. While cases going up is definitely cause for concern we are not seeing the previous outcome repeat itself. At least for now.

[O.city]

I’m guessing if we’d have been testing before like we are now, we’d have seen the cases go up like this in New York

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’m guessing if we’d have been testing before like we are now, we’d have seen the cases go up like this in New York

I'd like to think so but every time you hear someone say that there is someone that says cases aren't going up because of more testing. Seems prior to that we all heard as testing increases so will cases but as that has come to fruition the narrative has changed a bit.

[O.city]

For the deaths to be what they are or were in New York there must have been a shot load of missed cases

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

For the deaths to be what they are or were in New York there must have been a shot load of missed cases

Could be. Or we have learned how to treat things better and can prevent them. I'd like to think more of the latter honestly. Also remember that almost half of the deaths in NY were induced by bad decisions like sending Covid patients into nursing homes and then things like improper circulation in hospitals that contributed to spread.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

For the deaths to be what they are or were in New York there must have been a shot load of missed cases

They were only doing like 10-20k tests per day or less during the peak of their outbreak. Florida is doing 60-80k daily and their positive rate is 18%.

NY was flying blind just like the rest of the country was during the spring because we weren't prepared. So yeah they missed a shit ton of cases and deaths.

[dirk digler]

And you can look at individual state testing data here

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/...tates/new-york

[dirk digler]

As predicted and replicated, it takes about 3 weeks from when new covid cases spike to the time an increase in deaths are seen. A graph I made from @COVID19Tracking data to show the lag pic.twitter.com/sAVrJFYDwt

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 17, 2020

[O.city]

https://t.co/AMRvqcMSuY?amp=1

[Donger]

DENVER (CBS4) – Gov. Jared Polis issued a statewide mask mandate on Thursday as the number of COVID-19 cases are showing what he called a “significant uptick.” The governor has spent months urging people to wear masks in order to prevent the further spread of coronavirus, and now he has issued an executive order that will go into effect on Friday which requires it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Donger

DENVER (CBS4) – Gov. Jared Polis issued a statewide mask mandate on Thursday as the number of COVID-19 cases are showing what he called a “significant uptick.” The governor has spent months urging people to wear masks in order to prevent the further spread of coronavirus, and now he has issued an executive order that will go into effect on Friday which requires it.

They finally issued a mask mandate up here as well for indoor public spaces not because of any uptick( 0 new cases in over 2 weeks) but as a precaution as we go into phase 3.

[Donger]

Has anyone heard of any reports of commercial aircraft being the source of any outbreaks, or super spread events?