***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I kinda question this Sara, RN

I generally doubt anecdotes regardless of where they come from.

[petegz28]

The state of Kansas is of a few that do not list recoveries but there was this today...

Nearly 12,500 people listed as recovered from coronavirus in Kansas

https://www.kmbc.com/article/covid-1...02020/33367165

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm also pretty optimistic after reading about monoclonal antibodies.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sci...us-vaccine.htm

IBIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://ir.ibioinc.com/

[sedated]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

That's doesn't really explain why infections came down so much faster in those places

My guess is that those places (NY and Italy) took drastic measures, and because everything was new, people actually paid attention and followed the restrictions.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

So deaths look like they are going to be way down today. My question is, is there any concern about the numbers being messed with now that the data is going to the HHS vs the CDC? I'm unfamiliar with the reporting process so curious if someone knows better than I.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

So deaths look like they are going to be way down today. My question is, is there any concern about the numbers being messed with now that the data is going to the HHS vs the CDC? I'm unfamiliar with the reporting process so curious if someone knows better than I.

I'm waiting to see if Worldomoters updates Texas, Arizona, and Florida later today. I'm guessing they will - but the numbers will still likely be down.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

So deaths look like they are going to be way down today. My question is, is there any concern about the numbers being messed with now that the data is going to the HHS vs the CDC? I'm unfamiliar with the reporting process so curious if someone knows better than I.

And just like that, there will be no more cases....

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The state of Kansas is of a few that do not list recoveries but there was this today...

Nearly 12,500 people listed as recovered from coronavirus in Kansas

https://www.kmbc.com/article/covid-1...02020/33367165

Wish Missouri would do something like that.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

So deaths look like they are going to be way down today. My question is, is there any concern about the numbers being messed with now that the data is going to the HHS vs the CDC? I'm unfamiliar with the reporting process so curious if someone knows better than I.

Worldometers and covidly pull their data from various public health websites, not the CDC, so in theory it won't be affected.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Reports from McAllen Medical Center. pic.twitter.com/Kb2aDyrNSQ

— Sarah, RN (@shesinscrubs) July 20, 2020

How desperate are you for more panic porn?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm waiting to see if Worldomoters updates Texas, Arizona, and Florida later today. I'm guessing they will - but the numbers will still likely be down.

Here's the updated chart on new AZ COVID cases over the last few months (with today's data): LINK

Cases: Low reporting numbers again. Possible another slow lab missed the deadline or just weekend reporting lag. On track for 150K cases by July 22. 3,000 deaths by July 23.

Testing: PCR tests dropped by 6K since yesterday. (No signs of life on the "Project Catapult" push to 35K daily tests by July 31)

Spread: Overall PCR positive test percentage held at 14.5% (based on 793K tests, up from a 6.6% low) and the average for last week dropped from 17% to 16% (based on 30,593 tests, previous week at 18%).

Hospital Utilization: COVID Hospitalizations dropped by 1.7%. ICU beds for COVID patients dropped by 1%. (Overall ICU bed usage went down from 88% to 87%). Ventilators in use for COVID stayed flat. Intubations for Respiratory Distress stayed below triple digits (90).

Data Source: ADHS

[Discuss Thrower]

Nothing amuses me more than seeing a front line medical worker who once was crying on their social media presence about a patient's fear of dying from C-19 and then seeing that same person participate in a wedding with zero social distancing and zero mask wearing.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How desperate are you for more panic porn?

These types of posts used to bother me. Then I saw where one was debunked. And then another. Then another.

[TLO]

Dr. Fauci is throwing out the first pitch for Nationals on Thursday. Cool.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

If there's anything to the thought that once this thing hits a certain percent of infections it drops quickly, it does.

There seems to be some meat behind the idea that this thing can only hit a 20% or so infection rate because there is a large number of people with immunity already.

Also like I said Friday, its just running its course in areas that weren't hit before. And if you look at the mortality rate for Texas, California and Florida compared to NY its apples and oranges.

Here in SWM it seems to be on the down curve big time as well.