***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...tcN7Y71L4qSwNs

Kansas City mayor faces backlash over Ozarks photo without mask, social distancing.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by staylor26

How desperate are you for more panic porn?

A complete failure in leadership. pic.twitter.com/ozUfVUYLVU

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 19, 2020

because they're so easy to find

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Nice little summary of vaccine progress.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

Very encouraging article and developments all around.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

A complete failure in leadership. pic.twitter.com/ozUfVUYLVU

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 19, 2020

because they're so easy to find

Lol nice deflection.

Somebody gave some good news from a good source and you posted some doom and gloom bs with little to no proof. It’s pretty obvious you have an agenda.

People like you are just as bad as the idiots that call it a hoax.

[Kiimo]

Dafuq? Texas is bad man if you’re looking for optimism and sunshiny happiness maybe there should be a different thread because you won’t find a lot of it in here look at the state of what we’re dealing with.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Dafuq? Texas is bad man if you’re looking for optimism and sunshiny happiness maybe there should be a different thread because you won’t find a lot of it in here look at the state of what we’re dealing with.

You’re right, everybody is going to die and things will never get better.

[Kiimo]

The first step in fixing this ****ed up problem is admitting we have a ****ed up problem and that has been my agenda since day one nothing else. I’m sorry that you were hoping to feel optimistic there’s very little cause for optimism at this point. The entire time people have said it’s not a big deal and downplayed the severity of it and look at the numbers just look at the sheer ****ing numbers

[Discuss Thrower]

Thousands more lives could be lost to cancer in England over the next five years due to delays in diagnosis caused by the Covid-19 pandemic, new research predicts.

Cancer screening and routine outpatient referral pathways were suspended during the U.K.’s Covid-19 lockdown. Even urgent referrals fell by as much as 80% due to physical distancing measures. As the backlog grows, around 3,500 additional cancer deaths could occur by 2025 in the most common cancers in the U.K., which affect the breast, lungs, bowels and esophagus.

Urgent policy interventions are needed to manage the disruptions to diagnostic services, according to the authors of the research, published in The Lancet. Policy makers should focus on increasing referrals as well as increase public health messaging that encourages patients to seek health-care advice for symptoms of cancer, the authors recommended.

“On average, for each avoidable cancer death due to diagnostic delay, 20 years of life will be lost,” said co-author Richard Sullivan, a professor at King’s College London. “These estimates paint a sobering picture and reflect the many young people who are affected by cancer in the prime of life during their most productive years.

Source

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You’re right, everybody is going to die and things will never get better.

Our mayor has hinted at going back under a full lockdown again today (as if we aren't on a full lockdown, anyway) but things are not getting better, they're getting worse.

And holy hell, if we don't get this thing even somewhat under control by November-ish when the weather begins cooling off and there's a Second Wave, we're completely screwed.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Dafuq? Texas is bad man if you’re looking for optimism and sunshiny happiness maybe there should be a different thread because you won’t find a lot of it in here look at the state of what we’re dealing with.

I'm here in Texas. I'm in one of the supposed hotbeds. If this is as bad as things get....then yay? I had to take my wife to the ER last week (for a non covid problem) and there was plenty of space in the ER. I didn't see any refrigerator trucks. I didn't see any bodies laying around. I didn't see people moaning and coughing in the waiting area. Doctors weren't sprinting around and freaking out. I guess my point is when you say "Texas is bad" maybe you should be more specific. Certain locations within Texas have a high number of cases but implying that the whole state is some kind of hell hole is ridiculous.

Forgive me if I misunderstood your comments.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Our mayor has hinted at going back under a full lockdown again today (as if we aren't on a full lockdown, anyway) but things are not getting better, they're getting worse.

And holy hell, if we don't get this thing even somewhat under control by November-ish when the weather begins cooling off and there's a Second Wave, we're completely screwed.

I’m sorry to hear that bud. I’m not trying to diminish what anybody is going through. I just see through Kimosabi’s bullshit and he chose to deflect instead of acknowledging what he’s doing.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Our mayor has hinted at going back under a full lockdown again today (as if we aren't on a full lockdown, anyway) but things are not getting better, they're getting worse.

And holy hell, if we don't get this thing even somewhat under control by November-ish when the weather begins cooling off and there's a Second Wave, we're completely screwed.

I think it all depends on four things:

1) If a person has a likelihood of getting it a second time after fighting it off once.

2) everybody following SD and wearing masks.

3) the virus mutates or stays in its current form.

4) the ability to get an effective vaccine distributed to the masses.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Source

My wife is a radiation therapist. They were treating 25-30 people a week before the lockdown. They have been around 15 a week for a month or so. People were calling trying to postpone treatments because they were so scared.

She said it takes about 1-2 months before they see cancer patients after they have went through all the other steps. So they are seeing the effects of that lockdown from two months ago. One of the hospitals has been sending out reminders telling people cancer didn’t just disappear due to the corona.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Our mayor has hinted at going back under a full lockdown again today (as if we aren't on a full lockdown, anyway) but things are not getting better, they're getting worse.

And holy hell, if we don't get this thing even somewhat under control by November-ish when the weather begins cooling off and there's a Second Wave, we're completely screwed.

Well if it makes you feel any better, my completely arm chair and uneducated opinion is I don't think the weather is going to really sway the numbers a whole lot and I think this thing is just going to be steady until a vaccine.

So sucks it won't go away, but I only anticipate a spike because of how many holidays are sandwiched near each other.

[jdubya]

Here in NorCal a 6 member family had been staying together for several weeks. One of the younger members of the family invited his best buddy up from LA to sign his wedding cert at city hall as a witness. LA dude went home after a few days and then found out he was positive. The entire family in NorCal that he stayed with soon followed with all testing positive. The oldest, an 80 year old man died on day 8. The 54 year old woman had a week of what she called severe migraines finally got better. Her husband had severe body aches but was overall fine. Kids in their late 20`s were asymptomatic. Moral of the story: SoCal is ****ed and needs to stay the **** away from everybody.