***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I only know the basics, but my understanding is that the answer is yes, but not through a "normal" test. The tests they're administering now will tell if the virus is active in the person - they won't detect someone who has already had it and recovered. A different type of test in the future will tell us what percentage of people actually had it, but it won't be something that's administered to a ton of people - just to random samples so that the analysis can be done.

Yep plus the test is only 90% accurate. China has been doing multiple test per person, something like 4 tests in short period of time, to make sure since it has a 10% chance of not detecting it.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Spott

Syphilis?

No, I didn’t meet up with Vicki and Judy Vontell until just before the Super Bowl

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Read the article... it doesn't say absolutely every single person should stay home, one of the simulations shows only a quarter of people practicing 'social distancing'.

Good find and point.


No one is going to support some "martial law light" where people are forbidden from leaving their homes like Italy and Spain are implementing. If you don't know you have the coronavirus, Are we going to enforce quarantine? Even if its the best thing for America, I'd be against that. Taking away freedoms in crisis is not a path I'm going to support.


What if your sick but it just a regular seasonal cold/flu? Make them stay home? thats not who we are as a society.

Our best chance to flatten that curve is for 25%-50% of us to voluntarily practice social distancing,

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

OK, skiing would be non essential.....im in on that....and Curling. No damn curling.

This type of attitude is not going to help anything.
You have to be able to think and realize things such as cinemas, cafe's, restaurants, gas stations without pay at the pump as well as many other businesses and all those "Ag" businesses could be shut down for a couple of weeks.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

I’ve also wondered how long it’s been here. Just before Christmas I had an illness I couldn’t shake, high fever and chills, dry cough, runny nose, a couple days I struggled to take full breaths. Finally went to urgent care after Christmas and was given a Z-Pack with no testing of any sort. Obviously I got through it, but it makes me wonder what I truly had.

I had something similar in January. As an asthmatic I thought it was just bronchitis from a chest cold. Ran a mild fever a couple of days. Finally got so that breathing was hard enough I was sure it had to be pneumonia, so on a Saturday morning I went to urgent care. Tested negative for the flu. X-ray showed no pneumonia. They put me through a breathing treatment, gave prednisone and antibiotics, and I went home. In about a week I was better.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Good find and point.


No one is going to support some "martial law light" where people are forbidden from leaving their homes like Italy and Spain are implementing. If you don't know you have the coronavirus, Are we going to enforce quarantine? Even if its the best thing for America, I'd be against that. Taking away freedoms in crisis is not a path I'm going to support.


What if your sick but it just a regular seasonal cold/flu? Make them stay home? thats not who we are as a society.

Our best chance to flatten that curve is for 25%-50% of us to voluntarily practice social distancing,

You have to be willing to make sacrifices for the betterment of the country sometimes.

The fact that you said 'even if it's best thing for America' then say you'd still be against it is crazy. It hows how selfish you are.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by wazu

I had something similar in January. As an asthmatic I thought it was just bronchitis from a chest cold. Ran a mild fever a couple of days. Finally got so that breathing was hard enough I was sure it had to be pneumonia, so on a Saturday morning I went to urgent care. Tested negative for the flu. X-ray showed no pneumonia. They put me through a breathing treatment, gave prednisone and antibiotics, and I went home. In about a week I was better.

We have a surviver..
That had to freak you out when the Drs said you tested negative. Anyways. Glad you're OK and over it.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

This type of attitude is not going to help anything.
You have to be able to think and realize things such as cinemas, cafe's, restaurants, gas stations without pay at the pump as well as many other businesses and all those "Ag" businesses could be shut down for a couple of weeks.

Your posts make it clear you do not understand how the real world works.

You do not understand your own food supply.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

You have to be willing to make sacrifices for the betterment of the country sometimes.

The fact that you said 'even if it's best thing for America' then say you'd still be against it is crazy. It hows how selfish you are.

No way can I respond to this without becoming political.

FTR, My family and I have been practicing social distancing since Thursday. And will for the duration.

[HonestChieffan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

This type of attitude is not going to help anything.
You have to be able to think and realize things such as cinemas, cafe's, restaurants, gas stations without pay at the pump as well as many other businesses and all those "Ag" businesses could be shut down for a couple of weeks.

not gonna happen....maybe movie theaters would voluntarily....on the other hand with this virus, who is dumb enough to go to a movie theater? Livestock has to be fed, watered, cared for, gotta market them when appropriate....food has to get to tables

[wazu]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

We have a surviver..
That had to freak you out when the Drs said you tested negative. Anyways. Glad you're OK and over it.

Thanks. The timeline of January seems too far back to be what it was, but who knows? I've had mild lingering asthma since, which is not normal for me in winter months.

[Hammock Parties]

going to brunch and the grocery store

no ****s given

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

going to brunch and the grocery store

no ****s given

You ****ing monster.

[Hammock Parties]

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[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

going to brunch and the grocery store

no ****s given

Yeah stuff like that I’m not avoiding. I did call off on my scheduled pickup indoor basketball game today. That’s a bit much of sweat and spittle flying around for me.