***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

The "vodka shot" theory as I am choosing to call it where if you think of covid as shots of vodka and how if you take six shots at once you're more likely to be really screwed seems to have growing support.

The idea is that the initial intake amount matters as to how bad your symptoms are.

If this is the case it seems that wearing a mask actually DOES help you if you still get it.

Here's a study:


https://www.npr.org/2020/07/20/89322...aring-them-too

The doctor who discovered it in China died. He looked fairly young and healthy. Could be from such a massive dose.

[Monticore]

We have had 30 cases 29 resolved/1 death(125kpop /18k tests)no positives in the last 13 days , with cottages being open and more out of town people coming through I was expecting more since we didn't have a mandatory masks, which they decided to implement this week for indoor public spaces. with phase 3 and Arenas now opening technically we should see a bump in numbers.

I haven't heard about false positives up here and nobody is doing any antibody testing that I know of .

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Texas has definitely flattened if this is to be trusted





dashboard:

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/...fe8b9640bcb4a7



McCallen though...

https://www.krgv.com/news/with-hospi...ome-available/

I hope all these states start to flatten but it is going to be hard to get a real sense of what is going on because of the complete shit show for testing. For example Arizona seemed to be flattening but today they reported 3500 cases and 134 deaths. Florida can't be really trusted either but they did finally get under 10k cases today.

[Monticore]

I think Finland reversed courses on masks and starting recommending them even outdoors in April and Sweden still doesn't recommend I think.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I hope all these states start to flatten but it is going to be hard to get a real sense of what is going on because of the complete shit show for testing. For example Arizona seemed to be flattening but today they reported 3500 cases and 134 deaths. Florida can't be really trusted either but they did finally get under 10k cases today.

I don't understand how the testing/reporting can be all over the place especially 7 months in.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I don't understand how the testing/reporting can be all over the place especially 7 months in.

No comment

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I don't understand how the testing/reporting can be all over the place especially 7 months in.

When the feds say, "eh, you guys figure it out," it's difficult to have a cohesive approach to testing and reporting across states.

[O.city]

I did read that the FDA ok'd pool testing which is a pretty good idea IMO>

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

When the feds say, "eh, you guys figure it out," it's difficult to have a cohesive approach to testing and reporting across states.

I get that part but it seems like nobody has gotten it right you assume one place with have gotten there accidentally and would think others would have followed.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I get that part but it seems like nobody has gotten it right you assume one place with have gotten there accidentally nad would think others would have followed.

Everyone hails South Korea for their testing and yet they had serology reports come out that they were catching 1 in 10.

This ****er is just tough.

[lewdog]

Is it acceptable for people in surge States like AZ to be waiting 10+ days for results for well over a month now?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Is it acceptable for people in surge States like AZ to be waiting 10+ days for results for well over a month now?

10 plus days or a month?

Hope your feeling better.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by O.city

10 plus days or a month?

Hope your feeling better.

It has been a month since people have had to wait for fewer than 10 days to get their tests back.

It speaks to how backed up the labs are.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I get that part but it seems like nobody has gotten it right you assume one place with have gotten there accidentally and would think others would have followed.

There are a few countries that have gotten it right, like Vietnam, SK, Japan, Taiwan.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pants

It has been a month since people have had to wait for fewer than 10 days to get their tests back.

It speaks to how backed up the labs are.

That makes sense. I kept reading and couldn't figure that out.