***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

And the same people will still piss whine about not having a city wide mask order.

I guess to be fair I think our census dropped because we reported another death today. I can't confirm that though.

[Marcellus]

I just got a notification that Juan Soto tested positive today of all days, opening day of baseball. HTF are guys still being exposed and testing positive after being in Summer camp etc...? Seriously.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I just got a notification that Juan Soto tested positive today of all days, opening day of baseball. HTF are guys still being exposed and testing positive after being in Summer camp etc...? Seriously.

Dozier of the Royals yesterday and he has mild symptoms too.

Only takes one team personnel getting it and passing it to someone.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

As I said, your agenda is clear, as you've demonstrated (intended).

Sure.

If I had an agenda, I would have a problem condemning everybody that deserves blame, not just the ones that don’t fit my narrative.

[O.city]

Soto is asymptomatic, was tested Tuesday and didn't get results til today. So he was around the club for 2 days.

There's no hiding from this thing. You can't completely shelter yourself from it.

[kcxiv]

all you can do is hope people do the right thing to slow it down.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Sure.

If I had an agenda, I would have a problem condemning everybody that deserves blame, not just the ones that don’t fit my narrative.

Speaking of that, are you still waiting on Florida?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Soto is asymptomatic, was tested Tuesday and didn't get results til today. So he was around the club for 2 days.

There's no hiding from this thing. You can't completely shelter yourself from it.

He just got the club?

[Marcellus]

Soto was among a group of Nationals who were quarantined for 14 days at the outset of the team’s “summer camp” in Washington after he flew on an MLB-chartered flight from the Dominican Republic to Miami with a passenger who ultimately tested positive for COVID-19. Soto rejoined the team July 16 and played in exhibition games against Philadelphia and Baltimore.

Rizzo says Soto is asymptomatic after taking the test Tuesday and receiving the results Thursday morning, and says no other Nationals will be unavailable for the opener due to contact tracing ramifications. Nationals manager Dave Martinez said Soto tested negative four times before Thursday's positive result.

As part of its plan to return to play following a nearly four-month shutdown due to COVID-19, players are tested every other day, with results expected to be delivered within 24 to 48 hours. Soto is at least the 70th MLB player to publicly acknowledge testing positive; the vast majority of those positives occurred during intake testing around July 1 or earlier this summer.


Even if Soto is healthy, the positive test result will sideline him for a significant portion of MLB's 60-game season. There is no specified isolation period in MLB's health and safety protocols, but a player must test negative in consecutive tests at least 24 hours apart, pass a health screening and be approved by doctors from MLB and the players' association.

Yankees closer Aroldis Chapman tested negative for COVID-19 at the start of summer camp, but produced a positive test taken around July 9. While Yankees GM Brian Cashman said Wednesday that Chapman is asymptomatic and working out at home, he continues testing positive for COVID-19.

Soto played in an exhibition against the Orioles as recently as Tuesday night; MLB's health and safety protocols released before players returned to team facilities notes that only players who have come into "close contact," as defined by the (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) must pass an expedited diagnostic test and be tested every day for seven consecutive days.

The CDC's definition of "close contact" is someone "living in the same household, being within six feet of someone for fifteen minutes or longer, or being in direct contact with secretions from a sick person with COVID-19 (e.g., being coughed on). Close contact does not include brief interactions, such as walking past someone."

This doesn't make a ton of sense. Wonder where he contracted it.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Speaking of that, are you still waiting on Florida?

Waiting on it to be anywhere remotely close to as bad as New York like people were claiming it would be?

Considering we’re about average in terms of death rate when we locked down late and opened up early (with a big elderly population), yes.

I don’t care about cases. I care about deaths. That’s how I believe risk/reward should be weighed in all of this.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

This doesn't make a ton of sense. Wonder where he contracted it.

Pretty tough to completely isolate them i guess.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Waiting on it to be anywhere remotely close to as bad as New York like people were claiming it would be?

Considering we’re about average in terms of death rate when we locked down late and opened up early (with a big elderly population), yes.

I don’t care about cases. I care about deaths. That’s how I believe risk/reward should be weighed in all of this.

Piling up 10k positives per day, the death rate is rising right? Not ideal.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Piling up 10k positives per day, the death rate is rising right? Not ideal.

No, it’s not, which is why I said it’s definitely not a “success story”. I just don’t believe it’s as bad as people are making it out to be.

I also don’t understand what the implication is. Should we have locked down sooner/longer? How’s that going for California?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Waiting on it to be anywhere remotely close to as bad as New York like people were claiming it would be?

Considering we’re about average in terms of death rate when we locked down late and opened up early (with a big elderly population), yes.

I don’t care about cases. I care about deaths. That’s how I believe risk/reward should be weighed in all of this.

I don't know who claimed that Florida would be like New York. Are you talking about about total deaths? Deaths/100,000?

It's odd to not care about cases, since you have to get infected to die from it.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Waiting on it to be anywhere remotely close to as bad as New York like people were claiming it would be?

Considering we’re about average in terms of death rate when we locked down late and opened up early (with a big elderly population), yes.

I don’t care about cases. I care about deaths. That’s how I believe risk/reward should be weighed in all of this.

Deaths continue to rise as well. Just had a high in deaths today. 170 ish.