***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know who claimed that Florida would be like New York. Are you talking about about total deaths? Deaths/100,000?

It's odd to not care about cases, since you have to get infected to die from it.

Well it’s kind of hard to care about cases when I know multiple people who were told they tested positive when they didn’t even take the test.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I just got a notification that Juan Soto tested positive today of all days, opening day of baseball. HTF are guys still being exposed and testing positive after being in Summer camp etc...? Seriously.

Well according to your logic since he is Hispanic this is to be expected...

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, it’s not, which is why I said it’s definitely not a “success story”. I just don’t believe it’s as bad as people are making it out to be.

I also don’t understand what the implication is. Should we have locked down sooner/longer? How’s that going for California?

Probably longer with hindsight. Got cases down lower and kept bars and such closed would be my guess.

Florida is in a tough spot with vacationers and such. Not sure what the answer is there.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Well it’s kind of hard to care about cases when I know multiple people who were told they tested positive when they didn’t even take the test.

Did you hear anything about Ferris, too?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Probably longer with hindsight. Got cases down lower and kept bars and such closed would be my guess.

Florida is in a tough spot with vacationers and such. Not sure what the answer is there.

I don’t disagree with you, but that last part sums up my take perfectly.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Did you hear anything about Ferris, too?

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

[O.city]

Arizona looks to be past it's peak looking at hospitalizations. Cases too but as dirk brought up might be a bottle neck there.

Florida and Texas may very well be past the peaks as well, but now some other states are firing up. MO not looking good either.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Simone would.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Arizona looks to be past it's peak looking at hospitalizations. Cases too but as dirk brought up might be a bottle neck there.

Florida and Texas may very well be past the peaks as well, but now some other states are firing up. MO not looking good either.

If this is our peak, then I’m good with their decisions.

Still only 6 deaths in the Florida Keys, one of which I know for a fact was a “died with COVID” as opposed to a “died from COVID”.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If this is our peak, then I’m good with their decisions.

Still only 6 deaths in the Florida Keys, one of which I know for a fact was a “dude with COVID” as opposed to a “died from COVID”.

As a whole the state could be peaking. Other areas may go up as large metro areas go down.

Seems to be whats happening in Texas with Houston and Dallas looking like they're cooling down while rural areas fire up.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Simone would.

I’ve never seen the movie.

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If this is our peak, then I’m good with their decisions.

Still only 6 deaths in the Florida Keys, one of which I know for a fact was a “died with COVID” as opposed to a “died from COVID”.

Cases may have peaked but daily deaths are still rising. Same with Texas.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’ve never seen the movie.

That's nice.

Anyway, New York was seeing 10,000 cases/day just like Florida is right now, and then saw deaths reach over 1,000/day soon thereafter. I hope based on what we've learned so far that won't happen to Florida. I'm sure on that we agree.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan

Cases may have peaked but daily deaths are still rising. Same with Texas.

38/day in Florida on July 1.

118/day in Florida on July 22.

Seven day rolling average.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

That's nice.

Anyway, New York was seeing 10,000 cases/day just like Florida is right now, and then saw deaths reach over 1,000/day soon thereafter. I hope based on what we've learned so far that won't happen to Florida. I'm sure on that we agree.

I highly doubt that happens here considering our Governor isn’t sending COVID positive patients into nursing homes and we’re treating the virus better than we were then.