***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I highly doubt that happens here considering our Governor isn’t sending COVID positive patients into nursing homes and we’re treating the virus better than we were then.

New York State Department of Health (NYSDOH) conducted an in-depth analysis of self-reported nursing home data that finds that COVID-19 fatalities in nursing homes were related to infected nursing home staff.

https://www.health.ny.gov/press/rele...ors_report.pdf

You guys are seeing a massive spike in nursing homes, right?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

New York State Department of Health (NYSDOH) conducted an in-depth analysis of self-reported nursing home data that finds that COVID-19 fatalities in nursing homes were related to infected nursing home staff.

https://www.health.ny.gov/press/rele...ors_report.pdf

You guys are seeing a massive spike in nursing homes, right?

Cool, I’m sure it didn’t hurt at all.

Not that I’m aware of, but possibly? I’m not in fear mode and things are fine in the Keys, so I’m not keeping up with everything.

I know that 25% of the cases in Florida are in Dade County, so I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s happening there.

The rest of the state really isn’t doing that bad actually.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Well according to your logic since he is Hispanic this is to be expected...

Facts are facts dipshit. Latinos are 27% of MLB but make up 50% of the covid positives so yea they are 2x as likely to test positive.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Cool, I’m sure it didn’t hurt at all.

Not that I’m aware of, but possibly? I’m not in fear mode and things are fine in the Keys, so I’m not keeping up with everything.

I know that 25% of the cases in Florida are in Dade County, so I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s happening there.

The rest of the state really isn’t doing that bad actually.

Do you dispute this?

A causal link between the admission policy and infections/fatalities would be supported through a direct link in timing between the two, meaning that if admission of patients into nursing homes caused infection—and by extension mortality— the time interval between the admission and mortality curves would be consistent with the expected interval between infection and death. However, the peak date COVID-positive residents entered nursing homes occurred on April 14, 2020, a week after peak mortality in New York’s nursing homes occurred on April8, 2020. If admissions were driving fatalities, the order of the peak fatalities and peak admissions would have been reversed.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...tinue-to-soar/

The surge in new infections among residents at nursing homes and assisted facilities rose by 153% or 2,868 cases between June 30 and July 20, while the increase among staff rose 126% or 3,784 cases.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Do you dispute this?

A causal link between the admission policy and infections/fatalities would be supported through a direct link in timing between the two, meaning that if admission of patients into nursing homes caused infection—and by extension mortality— the time interval between the admission and mortality curves would be consistent with the expected interval between infection and death. However, the peak date COVID-positive residents entered nursing homes occurred on April 14, 2020, a week after peak mortality in New York’s nursing homes occurred on April8, 2020. If admissions were driving fatalities, the order of the peak fatalities and peak admissions would have been reversed.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health...tinue-to-soar/

The surge in new infections among residents at nursing homes and assisted facilities rose by 153% or 2,868 cases between June 30 and July 20, while the increase among staff rose 126% or 3,784 cases.

Nope, I’m glad that wasn’t what did it because it looked like a really big **** up.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Facts are facts dipshit. Latinos are 27% of MLB but make up 50% of the covid positives so yea they are 2x as likely to test positive.

I have no problem w facts. What I have a problem w is you denying that there are several reasons for the high Hispanic (which is NOT a race) COVID positive numbers..

You are clearly just too much of a vindictive asshole to admit it.

Let me guess you think whites don't commit any crimes as well right?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Nope, I’m glad that wasn’t what did it because it looked like a really big **** up.

Right, and since Florida is seeing the same surge without the same practice, it seems pretty likely that it's infected staff causing the surge.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Right, and since Florida is seeing the same surge without the same practice, it seems pretty likely that it's infected staff causing the surge.

Sure and that’s very unfortunate, but it’s still unlikely that we ever get to 1,000 deaths per day.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Arizona looks to be past it's peak looking at hospitalizations. Cases too but as dirk brought up might be a bottle neck there.

Florida and Texas may very well be past the peaks as well, but now some other states are firing up. MO not looking good either.

MO hospitalizations or cases?

The DHSS has stated there is a backlog in actually reporting the numbers of positives right now. That's why the numbers are so high. Supposedly it's supposed to be fixed by next week but I'm not holding my breath. I'm basically just watching our local numbers at this point because at least I know they are up to date and accurate.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by TLO

MO hospitalizations or cases?

Nursing Home Death Spike!

Apologies, not real, just channeling thread for potential band names.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Sure and that’s very unfortunate, but it’s still unlikely that we ever get to 1,000 deaths per day.

I think so too.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I have no problem w facts. What I have a problem w is you denying that there are several reasons for the high Hispanic (which is NOT a race) COVID positive numbers..

You are clearly just too much of a vindictive asshole to admit it.

Let me guess you think whites don't commit any crimes as well right?

He was talking about the Hispanic culture when you jumped in wanting to claim racial motives behind his post. When explained that wasn’t the case, and others said they agreed with what he was saying. You had nothing to say to them, yet you jump all over the next thing you can to tie racial shit to his statement about Hispanic culture.


So either condemn the others that has agreed with him, along with the others who have brought up islanders, or ****ing drop it. You get too ****ing emotional about thus things still.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by mac459

He was talking about the Hispanic culture when you jumped in wanting to claim racial motives behind his post. When explained that wasn’t the case, and others said they agreed with what he was saying. You had nothing to say to them, yet you jump all over the next thing you can to tie racial shit to his statement about Hispanic culture.


So either condemn the others that has agreed with him, along with the others who have brought up islanders, or ****ing drop it. You get too ****ing emotional about thus things still.

You still feeling good?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Nursing Home Death Spike!

Apologies, not real, just channeling thread for potential band names.

Sinus Infection sounds like winner to me.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Sinus Infection sounds like winner to me.

How about C.B.S. (Canadian Beer Sucks)