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**Dave Lane** · 04-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Whos got some kick butt video of the greatest LB in NFL history Aaron Curry? What I've found is really pretty unimpressive. I can't see in film why he's ranked so highly. Anyone have some good video they can point me too?

htismaqe · 04-09-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

oh yeah. nobody trades up for lineman. especially left tackles???? value is value. and in this draft, I'm guessing Monroe will have more trade value than Sanchez.

Several teams need a LT right now that are in the top 10. The Seahawks could be a playoff team and I don't see them taking a QB that will be on the bench. The Jags have lots of holes and they Garrard, who I think Del Rio really likes. San Fran already has a lot invested in Smith and I think Singletary likes Hill too. Denver has Orton and Chris Simms who both have starting experience and Simms does have some ability.

The team that really needs Sanchez is the New York Jets. They really need him, but moving from 17 to 3 ain't gonna happen. So, yes I believe that Monroe has more trade value than Sanchez because of where teams are selecting in this draft.

ok genius.... please refute my argument. please enlighten me with your brilliance.

There's 3 times as many tackles in the first two rounds of this draft as teams that need one.

Monroe will have virtually no trade value outside of somebody in the top 6 like Cincy wanting to get him.

ChiefsCountry · 04-09-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Sorry Mecca.

GermainE

Its Jermaine dumb dumb.

philfree · 04-09-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's not good value for the #3 pick.

Who is our value pick at #3?

PhilFree

Chiefnj2 · 04-09-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's not good value for the #3 pick.

In a perfect world, no. But, if KC thinks they have their QB and LOT on the roster then I'd rather take the Patrick Willis MLB than reach for a guy rated lower. I don't discount MLB as much as others on this board.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-09-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Who is our value pick at #3?

PhilFree

Stafford or Sanchez.

Saccopoo · 04-09-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its Jermaine dumb dumb.

Oh...I was using the proper, more widely accepted and utilized European version of the name. My mistake.

kcbubb · 04-09-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Well, first of all, there are 7 LTs with first round grades this year, and 3 QBs, and of the teams picking in the top half of the first round, the only ones with a definite need for LT are:

Detroit, St. Louis, Oakland, Cincy, and Jacksonville.

Combine that with the fact that there are 10-12 tackles with 1st or second round grades, and the fact that there were 7 other tackles taken in the first round last year, and several other teams still have a LT entrenched, and that there are only 3 QBs with second round grades, and yeah, I'd say the LT supply outweighs the demand.

The three teams you named (Oakland, Cincy, and Jacksonville) are obvious trade partners and wouldn't have to give up astronomical amounts to get Monroe. Also, there is a big gap between Monroe and the rest of the tackles. It's not just about quantity, it's about quality. Especially if you need one to start day 1. It is very probable that if we end up trading the pick, we trade it for Monroe, not for Sanchez.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-09-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

The three teams you named (Oakland, Cincy, and Jacksonville) are obvious trade partners and wouldn't have to give up astronomical amounts to get Monroe. Also, there is a big gap between Monroe and the rest of the tackles. It's not just about quantity, it's about quality. Especially if you need one to start day 1. It is very probable that if we end up trading the pick, we trade it for Monroe, not for Sanchez.

Why don't you look at the caliber of LT you need to win the Super Bowl compared to the caliber of QB you need, and tell me which position is more important?

Of the last five teams to win a Super Bowl, none had a top flight LT. Meanwhile, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger are your Super Bowl winning QBs.

philfree · 04-09-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford or Sanchez.

I would take Stafford but I don't think he'll be still on the board. I wouldn't take Sanchez at #3 because he's a Jr with only 16 starts. The odds are so against him making it that I wouldn't give up the #3 for him. I see him as excellent trade bait though.

PhilFree

Saccopoo · 04-09-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford or Sanchez.

Let me see if I got this right:

Taking an offensive tackle is competely reeruned because we have Bradon Albert at left tackle, and only a certified moron drafts a right tackle with the #3 pick, but it's okay to select a second or third sting quarterback with that pick?

A (Smith/Monroe/Oher/Smith) = Dumb, because A + B (Smith/Smith/Oher/Monroe) does not = C (RT position)

or

A (Curry) = reeruned, because A + Y (Boiman/Biesel) does not = U (drafting a linebacker in the top ten)

but

A (Stafford/Sanchez/Freeman) = Smart, because A + K (Cassel/Croyel/Thigpen) does = H (backup rookie quarterback/clipboard holder/coffee fetcher/jock washer)

Got it.

kcbubb · 04-09-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Stafford or Sanchez.

Stafford will be gone, so it will be Sanchez. That would also totally screw up the team. This isn't just about getting value. It's also about building a team. Can you imagine that locker room? That would just undermine Cassel. I still think with the current possible trade partners that Monroe would have more value bc of the teams in the top 10 that need LTs.

htismaqe · 04-09-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Who is our value pick at #3?

PhilFree

Nobody is true value.

At this point, I'd take Sanchez and try to move Cassel.

Mecca · 04-09-2009, 02:47 PM

I take back what I said about findthedr this offseason has been far worse.

ChiefsCountry · 04-09-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Let me see if I got this right:

Taking an offensive tackle is competely reeruned because we have Bradon Albert at left tackle, and only a certified moron drafts a right tackle with the #3 pick, but it's okay to select a second or third sting quarterback with that pick?

A (Smith/Monroe/Oher/Smith) = Dumb, because A + B (Smith/Smith/Oher/Monroe) does not = C (RT position)

or

A (Curry) = reeruned, because A + Y (Boiman/Biesel) does not = U (drafting a linebacker in the top ten)

but

A (Stafford/Sanchez/Freeman) = Smart, because A + K (Cassel/Croyel/Thigpen) does = H (backup rookie quarterback/clipboard holder/coffee fetcher/jock washer)

Got it.

You aren't keeping both QBs if one is drafted at #3.

Saccopoo · 04-09-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nobody is true value.

At this point, I'd take Sanchez and try to move Cassel.

I think I just vomited in my mouth a little.

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