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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11:10 PM

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

aturnis · 07-17-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Hell yes, and I'd smile doing it. He's EARNED it.

2010 aside, he averages 5 TD's a season. Period. 2010 is the exception, not the rule. He put up a whopping 5 last year. You don't get HUGE money for one year of high level production.

**Bowser** · 07-17-2012, 08:46 PM

David Ausberry? Whaa?

Brock · 07-17-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

2010 aside, he averages 5 TD's a season. Period. 2010 is the exception, not the rule. He put up a whopping 5 last year. You don't get HUGE money for one year of high level production.

I can't understand why he only got 5 last year. It's so mysterious.

**Bowser** · 07-17-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

2010 aside, he averages 5 TD's a season. Period. 2010 is the exception, not the rule. He put up a whopping 5 last year. You don't get HUGE money for one year of high level production.

So touchdowns figure more prominently in your equation than overall production. By this logic, Marc Boerigter should have gotten a massive deal based on his 8 TD, 20something reception year of 2003.

Based on his overall work, and based on the poop that we've had playing under center for Bowe's entire career here, he has done every bit of everything he possibly could have. Bowe can't score touchdowns if they don't target him on a constant basis in the red zone.

**Bowser** · 07-17-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I can't understand why he only got 5 last year. It's so mysterious.

Indeed.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-17-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Can you imagine sacrificing Bailey or Baldwin, the latter of whom is the greatest 21-catch rookie in the history of the mother****ing league, for the legit chance of having a franchise QB?

Don't forget the greatest NT that was nearly invisible in C-USA completion.

**Bowser** · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

So touchdowns figure more prominently in your equation than overall production. By this logic, Marc Boerigter should have gotten a massive deal based on his 8 TD, 20something reception year of 2003.

Based on his overall work, and based on the poop that we've had playing under center for Bowe's entire career here, he has done every bit of everything he possibly could have. Bowe can't score touchdowns if they don't target him on a constant basis in the red zone.

Let me add to that last part that he needs to be targeted by someone halfway capable of running an NFL offense.

Chiefnj2 · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I can't understand why he only got 5 last year. It's so mysterious.

I think he dropped 4 or 5 forty yard bullets from Palko.

aturnis · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Oh noez, a GM in the NFL is going to have to be comfortable with identifying amateur talent and taking a risk.

We're ****ed.

(You're right about the moot point, but you posed the question and thus...)

Not exactly. I asked who they'd rather have taken at QB since Pioli got here. Anyone we could have actually had, either sucks, or is iffy. Sanchez is better than Cassel, but same result in the end, and possibly wasting more time.

Whereas we have the vast majority of the team ready to contend, insert stud QB. Might be Sanchez, might be Dalton.

O.city · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

So why does Bowe get the benefit of the doubt about having shitty qb's, when Baldwin had Palko throwing to him for the majority of his games last year?

Hammock Parties · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

Tony Gonzalez had 12 TD, total, from 2005-2007.

POS who didn't deserve to get paid.

**DeezNutz** · 07-17-2012, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

How do we know Baldwin's hand injury didn't cause him to drop some of thos balls?

NTTAWWT.

O.city · 07-17-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Not exactly. I asked who they'd rather have taken at QB since Pioli got here. Anyone we could have actually had, either sucks, or is iffy. Sanchez is better than Cassel, but same result in the end, and possibly wasting more time.

Whereas we have the vast majority of the team ready to contend, insert stud QB. Might be Sanchez, might be Dalton.

The thing is, everyone was available. For the right price.

The best fruit is way out on the limb.

**DeezNutz** · 07-17-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So why does Bowe get the benefit of the doubt about having shitty qb's, when Baldwin had Palko throwing to him for the majority of his games last year?

Can't make the club when you're in the tub, son, so don't get your ass beat. Should be able to dodge that slow ****, at the very least.

**DeezNutz** · 07-17-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The thing is, everyone was available. For the right price.

The best fruit is way out on the limb.

The best cliche is ready on the tongue.

07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021115	How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this. I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league. What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years. I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's. Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe. Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49 Roddy White - 6422/42 Reggie Wayne - 6234/36 Wes Welker - 6105/31 Calvin Johnson - 5872/49 Andre Johnson - 5703/35 Greg Jennings - 5539/46 Steve Smith - 5353/29 Marques Colston - 5202/40 Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36 Personally, I think that's impressive on its own. Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons. Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems. It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game. Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play. After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play. I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game. Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league. Dude deserved elite money. Or, tl;dr - **** him. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 07-17-2012 at 11:10 PM..
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