Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 27

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

NJChiefsFan · 11-21-2016, 10:57 PM

Eye

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Smith had a bad INT in the EZ, the first of its kind in 3 seasons. Your point?

I'm curious to why you even watch games if you're going to be miserable like the other deplorables of CP...the whiny kids who are still moping that Clay is banned.

Miserable. Because I'm objective makes me miserable. Got it. The stupidest thing I ever did on this forum was once wonder why people gave you a hard time.

My point is simple and it's why you tried to change the subject. You argue that only the W matters when it's convenient for you. You argue that stats matter only when it's convenient for you. You aren't objective. Ever. Yet somehow you can't figure out why both the extreme haters and the extreme homes can't stand you.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-21-2016, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Eye

Miserable. Because I'm objective makes me miserable. Got it. The stupidest thing I ever did on this forum was once wonder why people gave you a hard time.

My point is simple and it's why you tried to change the subject. You argue that only the W matters when it's convenient for you. You argue that stats matter only when it's convenient for you. You aren't objective. Ever. Yet somehow you can't figure out why both the extreme haters and the extreme homes can't stand you.

7-3. Smith still has the third best record since 2011. Have I ever said he would go undefeated? Don't associate yourself with Clays minions...

Reerun_KC · 11-21-2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

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Jesus. So depressing when you think about it.

Rasputin · 11-21-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

7-3. Smith still has the third best record since 2011. Have I ever said he would go undefeated? Don't associate yourself with Clays minions...

The team around Alex Smith has been playing balls but not so much Alex Smith. Yes we have been winning in spite of Alex Smith.

I don't give a shit about stats it's what I see on the field that counts from my observants of every game every snap.

We won games with Matt ****ing Cassell his first season but that did not make him a good quarterback and we had ****tards give him every excuse there was when we started losing and players blowing their brains out.

So same I don't see Alex Smith as a good ****ing quarterback average at best but not a good one that can wield his team to victories in January and February. 12 seasons with 3 playoff victories you want to crown him crown him but you suck your Uncle Alex Smith dick.

Sandy Vagina · 11-22-2016, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Why do you keep saying Thursday ?

because I have really lost my mind at this point.

was stuck on KC playing Thanksgiving night, for some reason.

kcxiv · 11-22-2016, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Or how about the defense had 2 chances in the 4th quarter to stop the Bucs but allowed 5 minutes to come off the clock resulting in a touchdown when we were only down a score.

At least Smith and the offense did what was needed after the defense couldn't at least hold TB to a field goal: score a touchdown

Facts. Not fiction.

Because the defense is going to have bad days. The defense is going to struggle at times, they all do. The defense has been winning games for this team. Alex isnt helping them at all. Alex has won exactly 1 game this year for the team in which he put the team on his back and played great (S.D game). Alex is the QB, the most important position in football. It's obviously to hard to ask that he step up and pick up the slack. He just doesnt. Its the defense that almost always has to bail his ass out. At some point, he has to step up and bail the defense out. More often that not, he doesnt.

kcxiv · 11-22-2016, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Too little too late after giving the game away on the back breaking interception.

The TD he got after throwing the INT was the one he should've had on the drive before. It didn't matter at that point; Tampa went full on prevent and GAVE HIM 10 yard dink and dunk passes. That's why it took 4 min for him to score your vaunted TD.

Hey EVERYONE!! Alex Smith scored a TD yesterday! So it wasn't his fault they lost by 2 points after a 14 point swing on an INT in the red zone!

Because Tiggie says so.

All they needed was 20. If Alex throws incomplete on 2nd and 3rd down, instead of a PICK that was returned to the 50, then the Chiefs win.

The interception was the killer. Worse than Reid's timeout. Worse than the Defense giving up 19 points

Alex isn't asked to do much. What he IS asked to do, is not turn the ball over, and not put his defense in a bad position. Which he has failed at considerably since his concussion. The defense totally bailed him out against Jax; fact is, he has not been the same player this year, and he's definitely not been the same since Indy.

Anyone can tell themselves whatever, but fact is, he's done. Better just get use to it now.

Yep, Alex got alot of his first downs by running for the first. Take that way and make him a passing QB and its all over. He cant do that. He pussed out so hard at the end of the game he didnt even Attempt to throw deep. WHen the ONLY ONLY shot you had was a hope of a pass interference he throws it 5 yards. twice.

Dayze · 11-22-2016, 07:25 AM

yeah, but how good is Derek Carr at setting up his Punter?

In58men · 11-22-2016, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Jesus. So depressing when you think about it.

Doesn't bother Dane or Tiger.

Mr. Plow · 11-22-2016, 08:17 AM

I like how some of you are trying to have a rational discussion with Blackbob. It's such a waste of time. There is no rational with him. His only understanding of football is that it's played with a football - and even then he's not quite sure what that is.

rabblerouser · 11-22-2016, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Tigerbob just posts his crap rhetoric and then blocks everyone.

I don't see the problem.

rabblerouser · 11-22-2016, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Remember when you defended Alex Smith for putting up only 17 points against the ****ing Bucs defense?

That's not even the most reeruned thing you've posted in the past week, either.

"Setting up the punter" has to be the winner for the week. And it's Tuesday.

TEX · 11-22-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I like how some of you are trying to have a rational discussion with Blackbob. It's such a waste of time. There is no rational with him. His only understanding of football is that it's played with a football - and even then he's not quite sure what that is.

He is out there sometime, but he's pretty spot on with his preseason prediction that the Raiders woud get more than their fair share of game pushing calls. Catch the game last night?

rabblerouser · 11-22-2016, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

He is out there sometime, but he's pretty spot on with his preseason prediction that the Raiders woud get more than their fair share of game pushing calls. Catch the game last night?

Horrible week. I must be a glutton for punishment. It's the only reason I still watch this hot mess. I don't think I enjoy it...

rico · 11-22-2016, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

^^

Staylor?!?!?!?

11-21-2016, 09:33 AM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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