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Old 11-21-2022, 04:47 PM  
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:43 PM   #391
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I find it amusing that Chris Simms and Dan Orlovsky have been dubbed a couple of gurus about what it takes to be a great QB.

Of course one could also say that if he looks bad to those guys, ouch
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:48 PM   #392
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When the Jets trade him, if they're that dumb, some team is going to win that trade.


Please be Atlanta.


Give Zach Drake London (who many on this board said was garbage pre-draft) and Kyle Pitts plus Arthur Smith.
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:50 PM   #393
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Notice the complete lack of self-awareness or introspection?

Are we SURE we haven't stumbled onto Wilson's burner account here?
Lets have a mod check and see how much time MahomesMagic has spent in this thread and we may have the proof......

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Old 11-28-2022, 12:54 PM   #394
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When the Jets trade him, if they're that dumb, some team is going to win that trade.
Not sure how. The guy is a JAG. Now is the best time to salvage some value for him.
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Lets have a mod check and see how much time MahomesMagic has spent in this thread and we may have the proof......

https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=256687
The thread has almost 400 posts from >75 distinct posters in it, but he has made ~25% of all posts in it.
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:56 PM   #396
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I find it amusing that Chris Simms and Dan Orlovsky have been dubbed a couple of gurus about what it takes to be a great QB.

Of course one could also say that if he looks bad to those guys, ouch
The best players almost never make the best coaches or evaluators of talent, exception being Bird. Most good coaches and scouts were mediocre players.
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Old 11-28-2022, 12:57 PM   #397
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The thread has almost 400 posts from >75 distinct posters in it, but he has made ~25% of all posts in it.
He has almost 100 posts. The next two posters come in around 25.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:43 PM   #398
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I see Mike White had his annual monster game. I'm pretty sure he had one last season too. Could be wrong.
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I find it amusing that Chris Simms and Dan Orlovsky have been dubbed a couple of gurus about what it takes to be a great QB.

Of course one could also say that if he looks bad to those guys, ouch
Andy Reid was a mediocre OL.

I'll say this about Mike White. He played very well, and by that, I mean he played within the offense and didn't make a lot of costly mistakes. If he can repeat the performance consistently, he'll be the QB1 going forward.
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i don’t think anyone is calling Mike White the answer. But a journeyman/nobody being a drop-in upgrade doesn’t speak well of a #2 overall pick.
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:05 PM   #401
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Soon enough the NYJ team will probably come to realize Zach wasn't wrong, just too honest. But hey, the QB makes the money so it's "their fault" even when it isn't their fault. Had Zach not been running for his life so much, perhaps a case could be made that "he let the D down", but since he was trying to stay alive because of his O-line, maybe he's not wrong that he didn't let them down. But I get it, take all the blame because you make the money.

I suspect some team is about to be gifted a pretty darn OK QB.

Remember when everybody hated Eli Manning because he all but refused to play for the Chargers? He too was too honest. I'll bet they really hated it later when he put on two SB rings. Well, not NYG fans. Let's see if Zach can pull a Manning, even if the origins of him getting to his new team are different.
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Soon enough the NYJ team will probably come to realize Zach wasn't wrong, just too honest. But hey, the QB makes the money so it's "their fault" even when it isn't their fault. Had Zach not been running for his life so much, perhaps a case could be made that "he let the D down", but since he was trying to stay alive because of his O-line, maybe he's not wrong that he didn't let them down. But I get it, take all the blame because you make the money.

I suspect some team is about to be gifted a pretty darn OK QB.

Remember when everybody hated Eli Manning because he all but refused to play for the Chargers? He too was too honest. I'll bet they really hated it later when he put on two SB rings. Well, not NYG fans. Let's see if Zach can pull a Manning, even if the origins of him getting to his new team are different.
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The GloryDerp kiss of death.
I'm not the one giving up a perfectly good QB for a dude who they didn't think was as talented the previous part of the year. Hey, the Jets are going to Jets, giving up on the second pick in the draft because he was honest and correct.
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I'm a Jets fan, Zach Wilson does have a case of the yips, but a bigger issue is that he just doesn't see wide open receivers. The transition in his reads is just bad for the NFL level and this has caused big friction between Wilson and the rest of the team. We've likely whiffed on that pick, but I don't blame our FO for it. We have a very good GM and scouting group, its just a very hard position to predict and things have to go your way with the player. They haven't with Wilson for us.

I'm sure most Chiefs fans on here know how good they have it. Mahomes is arguably a top 5 talent at the QB position of all time. I'd certainly have him well over someone like Tom Brady, who many think is the best of all time, in terms of pure talent.
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I'm a Jets fan, Zach Wilson does have a case of the yips, but a bigger issue is that he just doesn't see wide open receivers. The transition in his reads is just bad for the NFL level and this has caused big friction between Wilson and the rest of the team. We've likely whiffed on that pick, but I don't blame our FO for it. We have a very good GM and scouting group, its just a very hard position to predict and things have to go your way with the player. They haven't with Wilson for us.

I'm sure most Chiefs fans on here know how good they have it. Mahomes is arguably a top 5 talent at the QB position of all time. I'd certainly have him well over someone like Tom Brady, who many think is the best of all time, in terms of pure talent.
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