***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chitownchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People will do some mental gymnastics to justify Lord Fauci. Regardless you can take away from this is that they suck to wear.

Everytime i read one of your posts my iq drops a few points. I'm basicallly drooling on my keyboard as i type this. Thanks for the irreparable damage you've done.

[Bearcat]

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People will do some mental gymnastics to justify Lord Fauci. Regardless you can take away from this is that they suck to wear.

No gymnastics are needed. It's expected of pete. And of you, it seems:

In an interview with Fox News, Fauci called the criticism “mischievous” and explained he was sitting with his wife and a friend, and removed his mask to take a drink of water.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Donger

No gymnastics are needed. It's expected of pete. And of you, it seems:

In an interview with Fox News, Fauci called the criticism “mischievous” and explained he was sitting with his wife and a friend, and removed his mask to take a drink of water.

And the fact that he's sitting with a whole two people outdoors, and the outlandishly wild assumption that him and his wife could be getting tested fairly often, and that everyone not living under a rock knows by now that the concern has always been and will continue to be the chance of spreading it among larger groups and particularly indoors, and....


Cartwheels!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

And the fact that he's sitting with a whole two people outdoors, and the outlandishly wild assumption that him and his wife could be getting tested fairly often, and that everyone not living under a rock knows by now that the concern has always been and will continue to be the chance of spreading it among larger groups and particularly indoors, and....


Cartwheels!

Some of you need to lighten the **** up. It's Friday. No surprise ?onger has it shoved far up his ass but you should know better

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

People will do some mental gymnastics to justify Lord Fauci. Regardless you can take away from this is that they suck to wear.

And I nailed it. Boom!

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Some of you need to lighten the **** up. It's Friday. No surprise ?onger has it shoved far up his ass but you should know better

I was responding to the "mental gymnastics" part, and just the fact that Fauci would have to justify himself in an interview.... the stupidity is hilariously sad.

I am appropriately lightened.

Sarcastic Celebration GIF from Billnye GIFs

[Fish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Bad Fauci!!!!

Welp, everybody can throw their masks away now I guess....

[Marcellus]

Just a little FYI, I mentioned this a few weeks ago here. The need for a negative test for players (or employees) to come back is stupid as dead RNA from the virus can sometimes be detected for weeks after the person is healthy. It just adds to the pile of positive tests incorrectly. When I read MLB's initial plan requiring 2 negative tests to get back on the field I knew it was flawed out the gate.

From the Athletic-

Kingery, now active, was an example of how an individual can continue testing positive for COVID-19 even while asymptomatic and not contagious. The virus’s tendency to leave a longer footprint in certain individuals prompted Major League Baseball and the Players Association to adjust their approach in similar cases, sources said. A player who repeatedly tests positive might not require back-to-back negative tests at least 24 hours apart if a joint panel of experts from the league and union, relying on an extensive set of criteria, clears him to play.

Yet even as the league adapts to new developments, its health and safety protocols remain on the stricter side. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently recommended a symptom-based rather than test-based strategy for determining whether health-care professionals can return to work. The Professional Golfers Association (PGA), following CDC guidelines, also is employing a symptom-based approach, allowing players and caddies who test positive to return after they are asymptomatic for 72 hours and at least 10 days removed from when their symptoms first appeared.

“The general consensus even in some health-care facilities is yes, you can test positive for the virus and not be infectious,” said Dr. Zachary Binney, an epidemiologist at Emory University’s Oxford College. “There can be either dead virus or just genetic fragments of the virus that are still picked up by a test. But there isn’t actually a lot of live virus that you are shedding and is able to infect other people.”

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Fish

Welp, everybody can throw their masks away now I guess....

[Marcellus]

But hours before Opening Day, Nationals star Juan Soto, one of the most promising young talents in baseball, received a positive test and there it was: all the challenges of a 60-game season summed up neatly, a sucker punch for Washington’s roster felt around baseball.

Except maybe it wasn’t. One positive test in an age of false positives with a virus we still know little about, meant Soto was quickly whisked off for more. The outfielder, who was asymptomatic, was frustrated but in good spirits. He was able to talk to teammates and talk on the phone on Thursday. He then tested negative for COVID-19 on follow-up rapid tests, sources told The Athletic.

Wow this is going to be an interesting baseball season. I still don't see how he tested positive being isolated for weeks so maybe it was a false positive.

Then throw in stories like this -

ARLINGTON, Texas -- Texas Rangers outfielder Joey Gallo says he doesn't know if he actually had the coronavirus despite two positive tests, since he has never had any symptoms and also had multiple negative tests.

"I wish I had an answer," he said Saturday, a day after he was able to join the team. "I don't know. I really don't know."

Gallo said he planned to have a more extensive antibody test to be sure after a finger-prick test didn't indicate that he had COVID-19 at any point.

The 26-year-old All-Star slugger missed the first week of the Rangers summer camp and isolated from teammates for two weeks after two positive tests that sandwiched a negative result during intake testing. He had two negative tests on his own outside of the MLB testing program, but wasn't cleared to join the team until consecutive negative tests under the protocol.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Just a little FYI, I mentioned this a few weeks ago here. The need for a negative test for players (or employees) to come back is stupid as dead RNA from the virus can sometimes be detected for weeks after the person is healthy. It just adds to the pile of positive tests incorrectly. When I read MLB's initial plan requiring 2 negative tests to get back on the field I knew it was flawed out the gate.

From the Athletic-

The INITIAL positive is the same thing. It could be dead RNA of virus that the immune system beat and the person is fully healthy, immune, and likely no threat of spread. This weakness in the test is not nearly talked about nearly enough.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I was responding to the "mental gymnastics" part, and just the fact that Fauci would have to justify himself in an interview.... the stupidity is hilariously sad.

I am appropriately lightened.

Sarcastic Celebration GIF from Billnye GIFs

Pete in with the "I was just kidding around!"?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Fish

Welp, everybody can throw their masks away now I guess....

Not seeing that glass of water.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Bad Fauci!!!!