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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 03-31-2016, 02:37 PM   #4066
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How about Davis getting Donaldson to groundout to Moose to win the 2015 ALCS?
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:42 PM   #4067
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:44 PM   #4068
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Maybe it's Colon's SB in the WC game. But I thought he already did that. Ok yeah he did - #74.
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:48 PM   #4069
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Rany is up to the Royals top 5 plays the last two years. Here are the top 30 so far and my guesses for the top 5. I know 4 of the plays but am totally stumped on the 5th. The top 5 are my guesses.
  1. Sal's hit to win the WC game
  2. Hos' mad dash to tie the WS
  3. Gordon's HR in 2015 WS game 1
  4. Kendrys' single/Correa's misplay to tie up 2015 ALDS game 4
  5. ??? What am I forgetting?
  6. Hosmer's triple in the WC game 12th inning, down by 1
  7. Cain scores from first on Hos' single in 2015 ACLS game 6
  8. Hos 2 run homer in the 2014 ALDS game 2 (I was there!)
  9. Dyson steals 3rd in the WC game 9th inning
  10. Davis/Moose get Donaldson out to seal the 2015 ALCS
  11. Moose homers in the 11th of 2014 ALDS game 1
  12. Gordon homers in the 10th in 2014 ALCS game 1
  13. Colon gets Hos home in the WC game with a Baltimore Chop
  14. Colon drives in the go-ahead run in 2015 WS game 5
  15. Murphy booting Hos' ground ball in 2015 WS game 4
  16. Esky doubling to give the Royals the lead in 2014 ALCS game 2
  17. Gordon holding at 3rd in game 7 of the 2014 WS
  18. Kendrys' 3-run bomb in ALDS game 5
  19. Aoki's sac fly to tie the WC game in the 9th
  20. Moose's dugout catch
  21. Aoki's crazy catch under Cain's glove in 2104 ALDS game 1
  22. Rios double in 2015 ALDS game 5
  23. Esky's inside-the-parker to lead off the WS
  24. Davis picking off Carlos Gomez in 2015 ALDS game 2
  25. Dyson throwing out Cowgill in 2014 ALDS game 2 (I was there and right above 3rd!)
  26. Davis strikes out Revere in 2015 ALCS game 6
  27. Moose's fan-aided homer in 2015 ACLS game 6
  28. Cain's bases clearing double to clinch the WS
  29. Gordon's bases clearing double in 2014 ALCS game 1
  30. Gordon's bases clearing double in 2014 ALDS game 3
Davis striking Flores out to win World Series
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:51 PM   #4070
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Yeah maybe that's it. I feel like I saw that one already though.
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:55 PM   #4071
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Yeah maybe that's it. I feel like I saw that one already though.
Not yet. I've been following this entire thread. I'm BMJ on the comment section. He has not put that moment up yet so you'll see that tomorrow with the other 4 you're correctly predicting.

Salvy Wild Card will be number 1. There's no other moment which beats that
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He said on 810 today # 1 is Davis striking out Flores.
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Yeah I mean it all depends on what criteria you use. And since it's Rany's list and he's doing all the work, he can use whatever criteria he wants.

But in terms of sheer emotional impact it has to be Salvy's hit.

My top 10 Royals plays of all time in terms of emotional impact:
  1. Dane Iorg
  2. Salvy's hit
  3. Hos's Dash
  4. Gordon's HR
  5. Brett's 3 run homer in 1980
  6. Kendrys off Correa
  7. Cain's dash
  8. Motley's 2 run homer, after hitting one just foul, in game 7
  9. Donaldson's ground out to end the ALCS
  10. Sundberg's triple off the top of the wall in the 1985 ALCS
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:36 PM   #4076
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The biggest moments in terms of me screaming loudly are:

1. Hosmer's Mad Dash WS 2015 game 5
2. Gordon HR WS 2015 game 1
3. Gordon triple in bottom of 9th World Series 2014.

Because they were so unexpected and instantly filled me with hope (2 of 3 worked!)
Also Morales off Correa and Salvy hit for the win in 2014 WC.

The other memorable moments aren't single at bats, but innings.

ALDS game 4 entire top 8th inning, comeback from 6 to 2.
Wildcard 8+9, comeback from 6 to 2.
ALCS 2015 game 2 7th inning against David Price, comeback from 3 to 0.

I screamed after Wade Davis struck him out, but being 7 to 2 with Wadebot out there, it wasn't 100% tense, but going outside in the middle of November to a firework filled sky was a moment I'll never forget.
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Rany is up to the Royals top 5 plays the last two years. Here are the top 30 so far and my guesses for the top 5. I know 4 of the plays but am totally stumped on the 5th. The top 5 are my guesses.
  1. Sal's hit to win the WC game
  2. Hos' mad dash to tie the WS
  3. Gordon's HR in 2015 WS game 1
  4. Kendrys' single/Correa's misplay to tie up 2015 ALDS game 4
  5. ??? What am I forgetting?
  6. Hosmer's triple in the WC game 12th inning, down by 1
  7. Cain scores from first on Hos' single in 2015 ACLS game 6
  8. Hos 2 run homer in the 2014 ALDS game 2 (I was there!)
  9. Dyson steals 3rd in the WC game 9th inning
  10. Davis/Moose get Donaldson out to seal the 2015 ALCS
  11. Moose homers in the 11th of 2014 ALDS game 1
  12. Gordon homers in the 10th in 2014 ALCS game 1
  13. Colon gets Hos home in the WC game with a Baltimore Chop
  14. Colon drives in the go-ahead run in 2015 WS game 5
  15. Murphy booting Hos' ground ball in 2015 WS game 4
  16. Esky doubling to give the Royals the lead in 2014 ALCS game 2
  17. Gordon holding at 3rd in game 7 of the 2014 WS
  18. Kendrys' 3-run bomb in ALDS game 5
  19. Aoki's sac fly to tie the WC game in the 9th
  20. Moose's dugout catch
  21. Aoki's crazy catch under Cain's glove in 2104 ALDS game 1
  22. Rios double in 2015 ALDS game 5
  23. Esky's inside-the-parker to lead off the WS
  24. Davis picking off Carlos Gomez in 2015 ALDS game 2
  25. Dyson throwing out Cowgill in 2014 ALDS game 2 (I was there and right above 3rd!)
  26. Davis strikes out Revere in 2015 ALCS game 6
  27. Moose's fan-aided homer in 2015 ACLS game 6
  28. Cain's bases clearing double to clinch the WS
  29. Gordon's bases clearing double in 2014 ALCS game 1
  30. Gordon's bases clearing double in 2014 ALDS game 3
How about the ball that dropped in front of Bautista?
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ChiefsandOsFan pulled the same shit in 14. I mean, to the T.

I think there is an uncomfortably high probability that he killed himself after the Royals swept them.
Nope, he and Bricks both still post here.

Surprisingly.
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