Chiefs Marcus Peters traded to Rams - Page 272

Sure-Oz · 12:50 PM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...97064676052993
@AdamSchefter: Chiefs are expected to trade CB Marcus Peters to the Los Angeles Rams, sources tell ESPN. Teams are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Rams and Chiefs are in final stages of talks and barring an unexpected snag, the trade is expected to be agreed to as early as today.

@AdamSchefter: Marcus Peters to LA Rams trade is now officially agreed to, per source; cannot be processed until March 14. But Peters expected to be a Ram.

Hoover · 02-26-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

Kc is gonna get less for peters then we gave up for Ragland and Erving. Just let that sink in for a bit

Bullshit.

staylor26 · 02-26-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

Kc is gonna get less for peters then we gave up for Ragland and Erving. Just let that sink in for a bit

****ing reeruned if you actually believe this

Simply Red · 02-26-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MGRS13

Kc is gonna get less for peters then we gave up for Ragland and Erving. Just let that sink in for a bit

Link?

BryanBusby · 02-26-2018, 10:56 AM

I don't think the Rams will part with any key guys when they are rolling the dice on a Peters to win with the guys they already have.

It's a win now move, so I expect just draft capital.

TRR · 02-26-2018, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Really good show opening from Petro.

-said if this deal is the Chiefs getting screwed he'd understand the Chiefs not releasing the details, but then why haven't the Rams?

-Disagrees that there is no such thing as a player you can't reach. And the fact it got to this point, means that it was never going to work with him here.

-Does fault the Chiefs for not having some kind of press conference about the moves this off season. "The fans need to understand, and you need to explain what you're doing."

McVay already answered his first question/statement. March 14th is the date. I think his statement also addresses his last comment. Nothing to announce until it is official. Not official till the 14th.

T-post Tom · 02-26-2018, 10:59 AM

This thread is too long to go back and see if this has already been mentioned....

810 reporting "rumors" that Peters had altercation with Dave Toub on the team bus. No confirmation if it was verbal/physical or both. But if true, it fits the player's profile. And may have been part of the overall reason the Chiefs' decided to part ways.

Messier · 02-26-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

But they can’t have a PC about moves that can’t be made official yet

Good point

FloridaMan88 · 02-26-2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I don't think the Rams will part with any key guys when they are rolling the dice on a Peters to win with the guys they already have.

It's a win now move, so I expect just draft capital.

Adding a 25 year old shutdown CB to a roster filled with young talent is a win now and win in the future move.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-26-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Because the secondary sucked out loud dude. Did you miss games like the Raiders loss? We gave up 2 TD’s when we blitzed and got raped down the field over and over again.

Our db’s couldn’t even stop Hail mary’s in Houston. Wtf do you expect any DC to do with Phillip Gaines, Kenneth Acker and a struggling Terrance Mitchell?

There was no scheme that’s going to cover Phillip Gaines, Frank Zombo, Daniel Sorenson, a broken DJ, a broken Tamba, Kenneth Acker, Terrance Mitchell and Eric Murray.

We relied on those guys and not one of them should be starting on an NFL team.

Isn't that the game where Romo called out our defense for being so predictable, that a qb basically had two easy options to choose from?

**The Franchise** · 02-26-2018, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Adding a 25 year old shutdown CB to a roster filled with young talent is a win now and win in the future move.

They're eventually going to hit a wall on being able to pay their players. Next season they'll have Gurley and Donald to pay.....along with the 5th year option on Peters.

Shields68 · 02-26-2018, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

A couple of thoughts after reading Peter King and other discuss compensation a bit.

1. From the sounds of it the Chiefs are not getting the Ram's first rounder this year. So probably a 3 and 5 in this draft.
2. Chiefs probably getting a 1 or 2 in next years draft.

This sort of deal makes a ton of sense from the Chiefs perspective as the team probably values having two #1 picks next season (lets say its ours at #13 and the Rams at #27) than getting their pick this year.

Gives the Chiefs four second and third round picks to add a ton of depth which this team really needs. Then in 2019 you can got out an traft a couple studs to build out the defense.

1. The timeline works better
2. Helps the Chiefs manage the cap longer - more players on rookie deals. Allows us to keep our young talent in place.

Agree with the fact this is what the trade looks like.

Disagree with your automatically going to get a stud in the end of the first round or even the middle of the first round (let alone 2). Not sure about the timeline, we need to get better on the defensive end to compete and I was hoping for us to compete in 2018.

But it is more and more looking like the Chiefs front office was given a mandate to trade Peters before players enter the building and the above could be the best your getting when under such a mandate. Think one of the columns about Belichek indicated he was no longer willing to coach head cases, think Andy has entered that phase.

**BigRedChief** · 02-26-2018, 11:07 AM

Chiefs Update: I've heard no #1 pick in 18 0e 19 for Peters. I've also heard a 1st is part of the deal. I've heard 18 (3 & 5) & 19 2nd! I've heard a player is coming to KC. Heard both sides (Rams mostly) are worried about public reaction to cost of deal. Summary: Who Knows!
— Chiefs Insider (@ChiefsInsider) February 26, 2018

Simply Red · 02-26-2018, 11:08 AM

My sources are indicating Chris Chambers to KC

**The Franchise** · 02-26-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Chiefs Update: I've heard no #1 pick in 18 0e 19 for Peters. I've also heard a 1st is part of the deal. I've heard 18 (3 & 5) & 19 2nd! I've heard a player is coming to KC. Heard both sides (Rams mostly) are worried about public reaction to cost of deal. Summary: Who Knows!
— Chiefs Insider (@ChiefsInsider) February 26, 2018

No clue why people still post his ****ing tweets.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-26-2018, 11:10 AM

More speculation:

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ast-nfl-trades

So What's This Mean for KC?
It would seem that the fans who believe that Peters should bring multiple 1st rounders in return, will be disappointed. That doesn't fit with the league's market value over the last 5 years. Terez Paylor of the Star has been trying to find out the compensation but there is not a lot of chatter out there. So he has to give us an educated guess.

Been digging on potential Peters compensation. Spoke to multiple NFL executives. My guess? Second-round value at best. Chiefs have been trying to move him for three-plus weeks, but it sounds like teams didn't know how he’d acclimate into their culture with a looming payday. https://t.co/1Fb9wxx5y0
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) February 25, 2018

If Terez thinks we are going to get second-round value, it would fit more along the lines of the Chandler Jones deal. Because LA doesn't have a 2nd round pick, the combo of picks would need to be along those lines. If we look at the draft trade chart, you will find that the Rams' 2nd round pick would have been #56 and the value would be 340 points.

So if we take Terez's assumption of 2nd round value, the Rams will need to provide between 340 and 360 points. 360 is the value of the Chief's 2nd round pick #54.

The Rams have the following picks (values following)

Rd 1 #23 - 760

Rd 3 #87 - 155

Rd 4 #124 - 48

Rd 5 #160 - 27.4

Rd 6 #194 - 13.8

Rd 6 #195 - 13.4

Rd 6 #198 - 12.2

They may or may not have a 7th round pick, however, it doesn't matter because it would be too low on the draft chart to have any value.

If we add up the value of the Rams' remaining picks after #23, we find they are worth 269.8. It doesn't make sense for the Rams to trade 6 picks for Peters because quantity has to figure into the equation. Hence the likelihood is a mix of picks in 2018 and 2019.

You figure pick #87 will be a main part of the compensation, this would cut the projected point total almost in half. If they throw in pick #160 the 5th rounder, you are nearly at the half-way point for 2nd round compensation. Through in a 2019 3rd rounder and you pretty much have 2nd round compensation.

Based on historical precedent and the draft value chart, Marcus Peters' trade compensation should be something along the lines of:
2018 3rd round pick #87
2018 5th round pick #160
2019 3rd round pick

In an ideal world, we would get a whole lot more for Marcus Peters and yet the NFL has shown us in the past that the real NFL is a lot different than many fan's expectations. I can't wait to see what the actual compensation is. however, the real return won't be known until the picks are used and the players perform on the field. So the actual trade may make you upset or relieved once it's announced but that still won't mean anything unless Veach uses it to create a playoff winner. Only time will tell.

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Mr. Kotter The Dude Abides Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Dakota Country Casino cash: $3404285	More speculation: https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ast-nfl-trades So What's This Mean for KC? It would seem that the fans who believe that Peters should bring multiple 1st rounders in return, will be disappointed. That doesn't fit with the league's market value over the last 5 years. Terez Paylor of the Star has been trying to find out the compensation but there is not a lot of chatter out there. So he has to give us an educated guess. Been digging on potential Peters compensation. Spoke to multiple NFL executives. My guess? Second-round value at best. Chiefs have been trying to move him for three-plus weeks, but it sounds like teams didn't know how he’d acclimate into their culture with a looming payday. https://t.co/1Fb9wxx5y0 — Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) February 25, 2018 If Terez thinks we are going to get second-round value, it would fit more along the lines of the Chandler Jones deal. Because LA doesn't have a 2nd round pick, the combo of picks would need to be along those lines. If we look at the draft trade chart, you will find that the Rams' 2nd round pick would have been #56 and the value would be 340 points. So if we take Terez's assumption of 2nd round value, the Rams will need to provide between 340 and 360 points. 360 is the value of the Chief's 2nd round pick #54. The Rams have the following picks (values following) Rd 1 #23 - 760 Rd 3 #87 - 155 Rd 4 #124 - 48 Rd 5 #160 - 27.4 Rd 6 #194 - 13.8 Rd 6 #195 - 13.4 Rd 6 #198 - 12.2 They may or may not have a 7th round pick, however, it doesn't matter because it would be too low on the draft chart to have any value. If we add up the value of the Rams' remaining picks after #23, we find they are worth 269.8. It doesn't make sense for the Rams to trade 6 picks for Peters because quantity has to figure into the equation. Hence the likelihood is a mix of picks in 2018 and 2019. You figure pick #87 will be a main part of the compensation, this would cut the projected point total almost in half. If they throw in pick #160 the 5th rounder, you are nearly at the half-way point for 2nd round compensation. Through in a 2019 3rd rounder and you pretty much have 2nd round compensation. Based on historical precedent and the draft value chart, Marcus Peters' trade compensation should be something along the lines of: 2018 3rd round pick #87 2018 5th round pick #160 2019 3rd round pick In an ideal world, we would get a whole lot more for Marcus Peters and yet the NFL has shown us in the past that the real NFL is a lot different than many fan's expectations. I can't wait to see what the actual compensation is. however, the real return won't be known until the picks are used and the players perform on the field. So the actual trade may make you upset or relieved once it's announced but that still won't mean anything unless Veach uses it to create a playoff winner. Only time will tell. __________________ "I've always said I worry about legacy and winning rings more than making money at this moment...We see what's going on around the league, but at the same time, I'll never do anything that's going to hurt us from keeping the great players around me.”
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