***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you have a link to this? I browsed around a bit and didn't see anything.

This is what I saw..


CDC

Assessment
Available data indicate that persons with mild to moderate COVID-19 remain infectious no longer than 10 days after symptom onset. Persons with more severe to critical illness or severe immunocompromise likely remain infectious no longer than 20 days after symptom onset. Recovered persons can continue to shed detectable SARS-CoV-2 RNA in upper respiratory specimens for up to 3 months after illness onset, albeit at concentrations considerably lower than during illness, in ranges where replication-competent virus has not been reliably recovered and infectiousness is unlikely.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...isolation.html

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, those 3 states are ****ing things up for the entire goddamn country. Shut the ****ing borders down so the rest of us can live our lives.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yes, those 3 states are ****ing things up for the entire goddamn country. Shut the ****ing borders down so the rest of us can live our lives.

via GIPHY

[O.city]

Thankfully it looks like those 3 states have rolled well over and are in their way down

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thankfully it looks like those 3 states have rolled well over and are in their way down

Hey yo. Check out my post a few above this one. Hoping you have a link about that CDC study - I can't find one.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thankfully it looks like those 3 states have rolled well over and are in their way down

Something else you might be interested in. I'm hearing a lot of talk about Missouri's big rise in cases.

Dr. Williams came out again today and said they are still backlogged on reporting, and have been for the better part of 2 weeks. They expect this backlog to be gone by Friday. So our daily case count is a big jumbled mess right now.

The state has seen an increase overall, but essentially we don't know what the damage truly is and probably won't until a week from now.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hey yo. Check out my post a few above this one. Hoping you have a link about that CDC study - I can't find one.

I’ll see if I can find it, it was a tweet thread I came across so no clue on the study.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Something else you might be interested in. I'm hearing a lot of talk about Missouri's big rise in cases.

Dr. Williams came out again today and said they are still backlogged on reporting, and have been for the better part of 2 weeks. They expect this backlog to be gone by Friday. So our daily case count is a big jumbled mess right now.

The state has seen an increase overall, but essentially we don't know what the damage truly is and probably won't until a week from now.

Yeah it’s hard to tell what the hell is going on

[petegz28]

Ignore the title of the video, the video is not political outside of the title.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Ignore the title of the video, the video is not political outside of the title.

Strong words

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Ignore the title of the video, the video is not political outside of the title.

There’s no clinical data to support those claims.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...id-19-patients

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...ealth-52937153

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Strong words

She definitely made an emotional plea for sure. I do like how she called out Gupta and to a bit of a lesser extent, Fauci.

It just seems amazing that we see these pockets of doctors that claim HCQ works and it gets written off. I know for a fact that even our health system uses it in certain cases. I am under no delusions that it is a 100% cure but she is not the first doctor to claim to have treated several hundred patients effectively with HCQ.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

There’s no clinical data to support those claims.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...id-19-patients

Thank you, Dr. Phoenix. I think the the 350 people she has treated might not give a rat's ass about your link. Just sayin...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah it’s hard to tell what the hell is going on

It is not hard. We have rising cases across the state but it is looking like St Louis Co is going to be the old and new hotspot.

Here in shit hole Clinton we are now getting 3-5 cases a day for the last couple of weeks.

[petegz28]

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows
https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/...reatment-study