***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Study Finds Positive Results For Hydroxychloroquine
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/stu...xychloroquine/

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Thank you, Dr. Phoenix. I think the the 350 people she has treated might not give a rat's ass about your link. Just sayin...

You didn’t read my articles then dipshit. You’re posting more anecdotal shit.

They’re showing people surviving at better rates given other treatments than when given that drug. It can provide heart failure as a side effect. The patients she “saved” would have likely made it with traditional treatments too instead of risking their health with possible nasty side effects.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You didn’t read my articles then dipshit. You’re posting more anecdotal shit.

They’re showing people surviving at better rates given other treatments than when given that drug. It can provide heart failure as a side effect. The patients she “saved” would have likely made it with traditional treatments too instead of risking their health with possible nasty side effects.

Bla bla bla..bla bla bla. Bla bla bla bla bla. Bla bla. Bla bla bla bla. Bla bla. Bla bla.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Study Finds Positive Results For Hydroxychloroquine
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/stu...xychloroquine/

That's a good one. Your article contains this.

The Hill: WHO Halts Hydroxychloroquine Trials After Failure To Reduce Death
The World Health Organization (WHO) announced Saturday it is halting its trials of the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine and HIV treatment lopinavir-ritonavir in patients hospitalized with the coronavirus after results showed the drugs did not reduce mortality rates. “These interim trial results show that hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir/ritonavir produce little or no reduction in the mortality of hospitalized COVID-19 patients when compared to standard of care. Solidarity trial investigators will interrupt the trials with immediate effect,” the WHO said in a statement, referencing multicountry trials it is conducting. (Axelrod, 7/4)

[petegz28]

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It is not hard. We have rising cases across the state but it is looking like St Louis Co is going to be the old and new hotspot.

Here in shit hole Clinton we are now getting 3-5 cases a day for the last couple of weeks.

Springfield was having quite a few for a hit but it seems hopefully to have settled a bit

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla

Can't refute something in the article you posted saying traditional treatments appear just as effective?

Got it. A lot of these articles exist so it will be hard for you. Post some more Youtube videos please.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Springfield was having quite a few for a hit but it seems hopefully to have settled a bit

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Can't refute something in the article you posted saying traditional treatments appear just as effective?

Got it. A lot of these articles exist so it will be hard for you.

She's treated 350 patients...you've treated 0. So your opinion on her patients is obviously qualified....

Or I guess she is just a liar????


Fist yourself

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

She's treated 350 patients...you've treated 0. So your opinion on her patients is obviously qualified....

Or I guess she is just a liar????


Fist yourself

You still can't read. Those patients would have likely survived with traditional therapies. The Hydroxychloroquine isn't some ****ing cure-all medication and has many life threatening side effects.

Should I keep owning you tonight?

The study adds to the growing body of evidence that the drug, promoted early in the pandemic by President Trump, is ineffective, despite its getting a briefly renewed lease on life earlier this month thanks to a retrospective analysis.

Results of new clinical trial published late last week have found that hydroxychloroquine – the malaria and autoimmune disease drug that President Donald Trump promoted as a potential “game changer” early in the Covid-19 pandemic – not only failed to improve outcomes in those with mild-to-moderate disease, but also produced a higher rate of cardiac and liver side effects.

Results of the randomized, controlled, open-label Phase III trial, which took place at more than two dozen sites in Brazil, were published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Thursday. The study randomized 667 patients to receive hydroxychloroquine or the drug plus the antibiotic azithromycin on top of standard of care or standard of care alone. When patients were measured on the seven-point ordinal scale of improvement in disease, those in the two hydroxychloroquine groups showed no improvement compared with patients who received standard of care alone. Moreover, those receiving hydroxychloroquine more frequently experienced Qt prolongation and elevation of liver enzymes.

https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydr...rate-covid-19/

[Bob Dole]

CASES!!!

That is all.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

You still can't read. Those patients would have likely survived with traditional therapies. The Hydroxychloroquine isn't some ****ing cure-all medication and has many life threatening side effects.

Should I keep owning you tonight?




https://medcitynews.com/2020/07/hydr...rate-covid-19/

Once again, Dr. Phoenix, thank you for your most qualified opinion.

[ghak99]

The local prison is wreaking havoc.

Some dumb shit went to work at a retail location not feeling well and within an hour was sent home. Supposedly, said dumb shit and a family member, who works at the prison, went to the next county over and got positive test results within an hour. The retail store is being shut down for a cleaning crew to come in and the shift she exposed is being told to stay home.

I had no idea results could even be had within a few hours.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

CASES!!!

That is all.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Once again, Dr. Phoenix, thank you for your most qualified opinion.

You can't read all these articles and studies I am sharing with you to back my opinion? It's a shame you think you know it all. I prefer to rely on a body of evidence and decades of known side effects from malaria drugs.

You're so slow you can't even come up with a creative nickname for me and just copied me. ****ing loser!