|
04-08-2009, 01:25 AM | #4126 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7919572
|
Quote:
Rock's first push was awful and the fans crapped on him as a result. After that, the Rock got over all by his goddamned self. He got himself over when he was in the Nation with maybe the greatest mic work in the history of the business. Go look up his promo from the Monday before Summer Slam of '98 when he rips on Chyna, or when he gave gifts to the Nation. However, Rocky's time as a full time wrestler ended the Monday after WM 17, after that, he never really worked a full schedule again, even though he came back later that summer. And as far as being a draw, everyone in the ****ing world was watching in 1999 and 2000, and the belt was flying back and forth. By the time Rock and Austin were on their way out, and HHH was the undisputed top guy, it was after WM 18, and shortly after that, and the horribly botched Invasion Angle (thanks Vince's Ego), business went in the shitter. If HHH really was a draw, he would have gotten Raw 5's and 6's and not 3's once the business cooled off.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln |
|
Posts: 74,860
|
04-08-2009, 01:27 AM | #4127 | |
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $10004900
|
Quote:
Regardless, what about Brock Lesnar? No one wants to remember, but Khali was world champ for a while. Then you have Kozlov. All were pushed like monsters. They still want jobs in 10 years. |
|
Posts: 383
|
04-08-2009, 01:33 AM | #4128 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
"The clique can't rule forever" maybe they can... |
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 01:34 AM | #4129 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7919572
|
Quote:
Khali and Kozlov can't work and can't talk. Orton, Jericho, and Edge are three of the best guys in the company. There is an ocean of difference there. And Edge is booked like a pussy. When was the last time he had a clean defense of his title on a PPV? The dude has won 8 titles, every time through nefarious means, and never just goes over anyone clean. Orton was just bitched out hardcore over the course of two months. Yeah, he got to punt Vince and Shane (of course Shane gave him everything he could handle) and took out Stephanie, but every time he went up against H, he was either getting tossed out of windows or his faction was getting buried.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln |
|
Posts: 74,860
|
04-08-2009, 01:34 AM | #4130 | |
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $10004900
|
Quote:
Austin was feuding with Owen and the Hart Foundation, but they all left after Survivor Series and Austin needed a new opponent. He got Rocky. Almost to a man, the reaction at the time was like why is Rocky getting another chance? Austin was the hottest guy in the business and they were sticking him with this guy? But in that feud he became The Rock and turned into a star. Sometimes guys get hot right away, some times it takes another try, and some guys never make it no matter how many times they get pushed (Billy Gunn leaps to mind). |
|
Posts: 383
|
04-08-2009, 01:36 AM | #4131 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7919572
|
Quote:
It was a textbook example of how to cut an egotistical promo without relying on cheap heat.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln |
|
Posts: 74,860
|
04-08-2009, 01:37 AM | #4132 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
Orton is booked like he should never be in a fight, he is made to look like he's a lilly soft guy who can't hang with anyone in a fair fight.
He got beat up by Shane McMahon for christ sake. |
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 01:39 AM | #4133 | |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
Quote:
But I always enjoyed how some guys would just be pushed down everyones throat while other guys got once chance and were deemed failures to never be heard from again. |
|
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 01:39 AM | #4134 | |
Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $10004900
|
Quote:
I think if someone is a pussy, nobody thinks they can win without help. Santino, now thats a pussy. |
|
Posts: 383
|
04-08-2009, 01:42 AM | #4135 |
Now you've pissed me off!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7919572
|
I remember an interview that Bret did with "Off the Record" about six years ago when he said that he had nothing but the highest regard for Austin and Rock, and said when he first saw Rock he said "this is the guy who was going to take my spot", and when asked about H he said that no one ever really considered him one of the boys and always felt like he was an ass-kiss.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln |
Posts: 74,860
|
04-08-2009, 01:43 AM | #4136 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
I think WWE heels are booked in pussified fashion because they feel it's the easiest way to keep someone heel. The young male demo generally won't overly cheer for someone they think is a pussy.
If you make a guy a badass heel half the crowd is going to cheer for him. |
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 01:44 AM | #4137 | |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
Quote:
|
|
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 01:49 AM | #4138 | |
Now you've pissed me off!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $7919572
|
Quote:
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln |
|
Posts: 74,860
|
04-08-2009, 01:51 AM | #4139 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $2087050
|
I think it was pretty obvious that Triple H had/has a personal issue with the rock and always has...
The Rock went out of his way to put Hurricane over and as soon as he left, H buried him. |
Posts: 111,280
|
04-08-2009, 03:50 AM | #4140 | ||
Pritay Pritay Pritay Good
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The State of Euphoria
Casino cash: $2985412
|
Quote:
If you're going to say stuff, make it credible. Have some objectivity. Make it so a blind guy can't find his way through all the holes. That's my entire point and has always been my point, whether it's about HHH or anything. Why is that so hard? It's really not. If one of youse saw some dubious exaggeration or whatever about a draft prospect, you'd be all over it like stink on a monkey. I see the same dubious exaggerations and such for YEARS and I finally get to where I'm like "yeah, well, that's not actually true" and suddenly I'm carrying Hunter's bags*. This does not mean I care to see him on my TV, going over more talented younger superstars of wrestling. I hope we can put this issue to rest. (*Which I would. 'Cause then I could probably carry Stephanie's bags. And then HIT ME VINCE ) Quote:
tee hee. holes Seriously? Do you remember that match? |
||
Posts: 6,860
|
|
|