***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by TLO

CDC putting out a report about the camp in Georgia where a bunch of kids got sick. This is going to stir up the hornets nest.

Sounds like a really high percentage of kids tested positive. Unfortunately that is not going to be a vote in favor of in person schooling.

[suzzer99]

LA County says new hospitalizations have peaked for now. That's a good sign.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Sounds like a really high percentage of kids tested positive. Unfortunately that is not going to be a vote in favor of in person schooling.

The most interesting part about that, is that before the camp, everyone was required to have a negative Covid test.

Even with negative testing to screen, the virus ran rampant

[lewdog]

AZ hospitalizations have peaked and are trending down by about 5%.

I like that.

[Halfcan]

I guess the Covid is worse at night- businesses are closing early now. Can't get what you need at the hardware store past 7:30 now - because Covid regulations.

Places are also putting up signs like this banning any customer with:
Watering eyes
Runny noses
Fever-like appearance
Cold symptoms
Scratchy dry throats that could induce coughing.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

AZ hospitalizations have peaked and are trending down by about 5%.

I like that.

Yeah Arizona is heading down quickly from the looks of it

That’s great and hope for you guys it continues

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I guess the Covid is worse at night- businesses are closing early now. Can't get what you need at the hardware store past 7:30 now - because Covid regulations.

Places are also putting up signs like this banning any customer with:
Watering eyes
Runny noses
Fever-like appearance
Cold symptoms
Scratchy dry throats that could induce coughing.

Where is this at?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by TLO

Where is this at?

I saw 3 signs similar to this in Lawrence today- 2 restaurants and 1 gas station

Another sign outlining all of those conditions and many more-on the public library door in Independence.

I think this is going to be a Thing now.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by SupDock

The most interesting part about that, is that before the camp, everyone was required to have a negative Covid test.

Even with negative testing to screen, the virus ran rampant

The virus has up to a 4-day incubation period. All it takes is one infected adult or kid.

Imagine a virus with this same profile - 4 day incubation, asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread through breath droplets, but an IFR of 8% like SARS-1. Life would be very similar to the movie Contagion right now.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I guess the Covid is worse at night- businesses are closing early now. Can't get what you need at the hardware store past 7:30 now - because Covid regulations.

A lot of businesses are doing this because of reduced foot traffic. There's far less in-person shopping going on right now.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

The virus has up to a 4-day incubation period. All it takes is one infected adult or kid.

Imagine a virus with this same profile - 4 day incubation, asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread through breath droplets, but an IFR of 8% like SARS-1. Life would be very similar to the movie Contagion right now.

I understand why it happened, it just shows you that screening has significant limitations

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

A lot of businesses are doing this because of reduced foot traffic. There's far less in-person shopping going on right now.

It is strange to see the entire city buttoned up by dark. Now I know how all the country hay seeds feel when the Caseys closes up.

I should just make 10:00 pm my bed time on weekends now.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

They’ve got instant or pretty much instant saliva tests but they aren’t as accurate as pcr

Frankly we should trade accuracy for speed at this point anyway

Iirc, if a test has an 85% accuracy and is back in a day or less, you can always isolate and administer a second test that would also have 85% accuracy. So you’re really testing 15% a second time and the overall accuracy of that approach would be highly efficient. From the outside looking in, that seems like an obvious go to. Even if the % is less.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Now I know how all the country hay seeds feel when the Caseys closes up.

I should just make 10:00 pm my bed time.

To each their own LMFAO. What an ass.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Houston doctor says he's fighting 2 wars: COVID-19 and stupidity

https://abc13.com/health/houston-doc...zuqzmNAdvpYamk

Well, that explains why BleedingRed hasn't had time to post in this thread lately....