***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by lewdog

There’s a misconception that masks are 100% preventative by many. We know they are not. They must be paired with social distancing to make them extremely effective. Your scenario is very common sadly. People won’t take 5 minutes to educate themselves about COVID precautions.

Sure. If you stay 6 feet away from people, give the mask some credit!

Of course, if they wanted masks they should have been doing Randomized Control Trials back in February or March. So far only Denmark has finally done one (they haven't released results) but is not issuing a mask mandate.

Why masks? Cheap and allow the politicians to put the blame on the people instead of themselves. Do they work? Doesn't matter.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

He's right. You're here trafficking in nonsense on a subject you know nothing about, and this kind of thing is why we're having a second wave and why people won't take common sense precautions.

Horseshit. You are making baseless claims as usual.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Suicides and deaths by domestic violence are two major ones not being discussed here, but discussed widely on social media as being heavily impacted by the lockdowns.

Drinking and driving numbers probably offset those by having bars and restaurants closed.
Both would be hard to quantify and those committing domestic during lockdowns were probably doing it before or likely to to end up doing it at some point.

[MahomesMagic]

Murders are up in my city more than 80% over last year.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Sure. If you stay 6 feet away from people, give the mask some credit!

Of course, if they wanted masks they should have been doing Randomized Control Trials back in February or March. So far only Denmark has finally done one (they haven't released results) but is not issuing a mask mandate.

Why masks? Cheap and allow the politicians to put the blame on the people instead of themselves. Do they work? Doesn't matter.

You think a person coughing 6 feet away from you and unmasked spreads droplets the same as a person coughing 6 feet away from you and wearing a masks? Studies and videos have been done on this. Night and day difference. Social distancing is still the most important part of that equation, though. I do agree with that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/medical...curb-virus.amp

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Murders are up in my city more than 80% over last year.

What city?

Can I see the data?

[Kiimo]

It's astounding that in August there are still dipshits arguing about masks.


Wear a ****ing mask how hard is it? It isn't political. Even the president has given in. It clearly helps. Goddam.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's astounding that in August there are still dipshits arguing about masks.


Wear a ****ing mask how hard is it? It isn't political. Even the president has given in. It clearly helps. Goddam.

Who's arguing about masks?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Who's arguing about masks?

MahomesMagic

[O.city]

https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...e.abd3871.full

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

It's astounding that in August there are still dipshits arguing about masks.


Wear a ****ing mask how hard is it? It isn't political. Even the president has given in. It clearly helps. Goddam.

It's ****ing embarrassing that 50 year olds are out throwing fits in stores because they have to wear a mask. My 2.5 year old will wear a mask and if she doesn't have a problem with it, then no one should complain.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Murders are up in my city more than 80% over last year.

Murders are more likely related to other things and who is to say the numbers wouldn't be even higher if people were aloud to have large gatherings, can't have mass shooting without the masses.

[Chief Roundup]

LOL at Missouri for being called out on The Today show for lack of taking this stuff serious and not wearing masks or doing a good enough job of social distancing.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by jdubya

The citizens voted down a tax increase? The horror

A tax increase that would have amounted to less than $2/week for 95% of the people that it would have impacted. We already have the 8th lowest tax levy in a 10 school conference and the tax increase would have had us right in the middle. The school has a ton of repairs that are needed and this wouldnt have been the case if the ****ing town would have approved an increase for a whole new school, but who cares about improving the education system for the kids.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Murders are up in my city more than 80% over last year.

Wear your damn mask. How hard is that for people to understand.