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That said, it's pretty much a lock that other countries are going to be back to normal and we'll probably still be fighting it because we just have too much spread going on. Especially if schools do end up spreading this thing worse. There's not really a way around that. |
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08-05-2020, 09:12 PM | #41823 | |
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08-05-2020, 09:20 PM | #41824 |
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Many European countries, including Germany, France, and Spain, among others, are seeing cases rise again. They haven’t beat it all in regards to cases or things being normal.
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08-05-2020, 09:21 PM | #41825 | |
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https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sb...0op6mDCA&hl=en I'll grant you that the other pics were not 99% compliance. A lot of the pictures you didn't choose from that search I posted had near 100% mask compliance. I went to a protest in LA that was 100% mask compliance. My argument still holds a lot of water at 90% compliance or even 80% vs. zero mask compliance going out of your way to scream in people's faces. Who gives a shit about 6 feet? That's something you added. I only made the comment about masks - which make the lion's share of the difference. 6 feet or a mask is probably good enough. Almost all the people in your pics have masks, which the probably put in when they're in close quarters or not marching. It's not perfect but it's a lot better than doing nothing. Last edited by suzzer99; 08-05-2020 at 09:30 PM.. |
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08-05-2020, 09:28 PM | #41826 | |
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And “6 feet” is relevant because all of this started with the potential dangers of spread. If you can look at those pictures and tell me you don’t see that the risk of spread is high, it’s because you’re biased, which I already know you are. |
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I don't see a huge risk in those pics, no. I don't see zero risk either. Pretty much everyone at least has a mask they can put on if they stop moving and get in tight.
FWIW I wasn't one going nuts about the other protests either - except when they get in close for an extended period with no masks, and especially when they scream in other people's faces. The point is the pics you showed, and this, are nowhere close to identical risk level - which was the claim I responded to. This one is even indoors ffs. |
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08-05-2020, 09:34 PM | #41828 | |
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I think the odds are good for a decent vaccine within the next six months. Without a vaccine, there will still be people distancing 2 to 3 years from now and it will still be having a negative effect on the economy. Cheap, fast, and widely available tests would also be a game changer. I expect that sooner than two to three years.
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08-05-2020, 09:48 PM | #41829 | |
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You’re just seeing what you want to see because you’re biased: Also, how many of these people have masks that are THAT effective when thousands are crowded shoulder to shoulder? Do you see how many have a mask, but are not wearing it? Just because somebody has a mask on doesn’t mean they had it on the entire time. Are you not capable of that level of critical thinking or is it just your bias? Last edited by staylor26; 08-05-2020 at 09:54 PM.. |
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08-05-2020, 09:50 PM | #41830 |
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So the virus burning out has been widely discussed on this board and people think this will be a problem a year from now even with no vaccine? Burnout means major problem over. Right?
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08-05-2020, 10:07 PM | #41831 | |
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08-05-2020, 10:12 PM | #41832 | |
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German doctors and officials are talking about the start of their second wave having arrived as cases continue to rise. They are warning among other things that elective surgeries are at risk of being cancelled again soon. Thousands are protesting in Berlin and across the country about lockdowns and face masks requirements. Citizens are urged to avoid non essential travel to basically all of their neighbors. Despite rising cases schools are starting there next week as well. I wouldn’t classify things as normal there nor just assume it won’t keep getting worst as far as case numbers. |
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08-05-2020, 10:16 PM | #41833 | |
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Are you trying to claim that the anti-mask protest indoor and these BLM protests are the same risk level? Because that is the point I was replying to. Also why haven't we seen outbreaks if these are as risky as you seem to think they are? |
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Sure seems like a lot of other countries opened schools with success. But many of them also had far less cases. Hopefully we don't have problems but we're about to find out. I'm not sure there's another example comparable to what we're about to do. Seems like the elementary kids are fairly low risk but the high schoolers are a different story.
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