Falcons after Gonzalez

[The Poz]

Sorry if re-post, didn't see it anywhere.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1331

The Falcons are reportedly interested in trading for Chiefs TE Tony Gonzalez.
The National Football Post's Michael Lombardi says the Falcons are "seriously considering" the option, with their second-round pick as bait. Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt is attached to his franchise icon, but he might be convinced to part ways as the team rebuilds.

Atlanta has the 55th pick in the second. Maybe Jarron Gilbert or Paul Kruger although I'd rather see Tony stick it out here.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No one will know the answer to that question unless he's traded.

Or if he isn't.

[SBK]

For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by SBK

For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.

Trade him. Then draft Chase Coffman at #55 to replace him!


Kidding...
Paul Kruger will do.

[SBK]

Originally Posted by Micjones

Trade him. Then draft Chase Coffman at #55 to replace him!


Kidding...
Paul Kruger will do.

Hearing the people talk about needing to do that trade now made me wonder if he doesn't hold a higher value to teams that are close than we think an old TE has.

If you thought he was the missing piece to your offense to be Super Bowl caliber, maybe you overpay to get him?

To me a 2nd rounder for a 33 year old TE, even for the best one to ever play, seems like too high a price.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, he wasn't suppose to be as much of a threat in Vermiel's offense either.

Yea lets not factor in that Peterson was still here and he in no way was gonna let his boy go to replace him with legit WR's. Tony Gonzalez was the weapon in Vermiels passing game because we never even made an attempt to even get adequate WR's.

[Dylan]

Sorry, I do not have a link.

For what it's worth:


How to build a champion

Pats showed the way; can Parcells, rest of NFL follow?

NEW YORK -- Once upon a time, way back in 2000, New England owner Bob Kraft swam against the tide and hired a 47-year-old coach, Bill Belichick, who brought along a trusted friend with a knack for picking players, Scott Pioli, 34, to run the personnel side of the team.

Pioli would scout and prepare the free-agent and draft lists with his staff, and do contracts, while Belichick would coach and pick the players ... with the financial and moral support of Kraft.

The Patriots were $10 million over the cap then, and their top-rated free agent at an important position was a terrific young tackle, Jon Runyan. Nope, Belichick said; we're not going to further screw up our bloated cap by signing the richest tackle in football. So the Patriots bit the bullet in 2000 and 2001, trying to get better through the draft (Tom Brady came in 2000, Richard Seymour and Matt Light in '01).

Then they took a very interesting gamble in 2001. One of their best young defensive players, tackle Chad Eaton, was a free agent, and the Pats let him go seek his fortune. Eaton signed with Seattle for a bonus of $3.5 million. The Patriots signed 20 mid- to low-roster veteran free agents for $2.57 million in signing bonuses that spring.

Of course, the Patriots won the Super Bowl that season, with 16 of those free agents playing in an upset win over St. Louis. Mike Vrabel, Antowain Smith, Roman Phifer and Larry Izzo were among them. In the spring of 2002, New England was the only defending Super Bowl champion in the first nine years of free agency to enter the next season under the salary cap.

After that 2002 Super Bowl game, I told Belichick at the Patriots' team party, "You've just given a blueprint to every team in the NFL -- draft well, find a quarterback and fill in all the cracks through middle- and lower-class free-agency.''

"I know,'' he said.

Six years later, teams still don't follow the blueprint. I don't get it.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Dylan

Sorry, I do not have a link.

For what it's worth:


How to build a champion

Pats showed the way; can Parcells, rest of NFL follow?

NEW YORK -- Once upon a time, way back in 2000, New England owner Bob Kraft swam against the tide and hired a 47-year-old coach, Bill Belichick, who brought along a trusted friend with a knack for picking players, Scott Pioli, 34, to run the personnel side of the team.

Pioli would scout and prepare the free-agent and draft lists with his staff, and do contracts, while Belichick would coach and pick the players ... with the financial and moral support of Kraft.

The Patriots were $10 million over the cap then, and their top-rated free agent at an important position was a terrific young tackle, Jon Runyan. Nope, Belichick said; we're not going to further screw up our bloated cap by signing the richest tackle in football. So the Patriots bit the bullet in 2000 and 2001, trying to get better through the draft (Tom Brady came in 2000, Richard Seymour and Matt Light in '01).

Then they took a very interesting gamble in 2001. One of their best young defensive players, tackle Chad Eaton, was a free agent, and the Pats let him go seek his fortune. Eaton signed with Seattle for a bonus of $3.5 million. The Patriots signed 20 mid- to low-roster veteran free agents for $2.57 million in signing bonuses that spring.

Of course, the Patriots won the Super Bowl that season, with 16 of those free agents playing in an upset win over St. Louis. Mike Vrabel, Antowain Smith, Roman Phifer and Larry Izzo were among them. In the spring of 2002, New England was the only defending Super Bowl champion in the first nine years of free agency to enter the next season under the salary cap.

After that 2002 Super Bowl game, I told Belichick at the Patriots' team party, "You've just given a blueprint to every team in the NFL -- draft well, find a quarterback and fill in all the cracks through middle- and lower-class free-agency.''

"I know,'' he said.

Six years later, teams still don't follow the blueprint. I don't get it.

With all due respect, "find a Quarterback" isn't exactly a trip to Win-Dixie for a bag of potato chips.

Normally.

This year, you have not one, but TWO bags of chips to choose from! Too bad we pissed away the change under the sofa for a half-eaten bag of Cheetos...

[Mr. Kotter]

If the Falcons are REALLY offering their second round pick to the Chiefs for Gonzo, his Chief's career is over. No way Pioli passes up that at this stage in Tony's career--given the rebuild the Chiefs are going through.

[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by SBK

For anyone that cares, here in Atlanta sports radio is all over this. They're telling the Falcons to give up that 2nd rounder before the Chiefs change their mind or someone else swoops in an offer more.

They want to do this trade today, so they don't lose out on such a great player for such a low price.

I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.

Yeah, he does just keep going and going, but at some point, sooner, rather than later, the demands of his position and age are going to catch up to him.

[Molitoth]

With Tony G, you know what your getting.... the best tight end in modern day history.

With a second round draft pick you are taking a 50/50 chance of a bust. I would imagine the odds of the draft pick putting out an even significant stat figure comparible to Tony G would be a reach. Tony G for a second rounder isn't too much in my book.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

With Tony G, you know what your getting.... the best tight end in modern day history.

With a second round draft pick you are taking a 50/50 chance of a bust. I would imagine the odds of the draft pick putting out an even significant stat figure comparible to Tony G would be a reach. Tony G for a second rounder isn't too much in my book.

So:

There's a 50/50 chance that a 2nd round pick will be here and productive during a Super Bowl run 3-4 years from now.

There's a ZERO percent chance that TG would be part of that run.

You get the chance to pick a player that could be a cornerstone for the next 10 years, versus getting nothing when he retires in 2010.

This isn't that difficult a choice, IMO.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

I think both teams would do good in this deal.

Certainly bring a great offensive weapon for the Falcons. Gonzo just seems to keep going and going like the ever ready battery.

He hinted at being traded a time or two. He has had great years with the Chiefs. And he won't get a ring with the Chiefs organization it appears.

I can't blame him for wanting to move on.

I think it's the Energizer bunny.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So:

There's a 50/50 chance that a 2nd round pick will be here and productive during a Super Bowl run 3-4 years from now.

There's a ZERO percent chance that TG would be part of that run.

You get the chance to pick a player that could be a cornerstone for the next 10 years, versus getting nothing when he retires in 2010.

This isn't that difficult a choice, IMO.

Oh believe me, I also agree with this...

I think this trade would be good for both teams.

[Gracie Dean]

like they are in any more position to win a ring?