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Eleazar · 11-18-2018, 05:22 PM

NFL ups intensity with all-star officials for Rams-Chiefs game

Kevin Seifert
ESPN.com NFL Nation

The NFL took the unusual step this week of assigning an "all-star" officiating crew to the most highly anticipated game of the season, adding to the playofflike frenzy for Monday night's matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Los Angeles Rams.

Referee Clete Blakeman will work the game with only two members of his regular crew, umpire Ramon George and down judge Dana McKenzie. The other five officials -- including Jim Lapetina, who will handle replay -- were plucked from four other crews.

The approach is similar to how the NFL assigns officials to playoff games, a process that is based on performance and seniority rather than crew. But it is rarely, if ever, employed before the postseason. Officials typically work on the same eight-person crews throughout the regular season to maximize continuity and familiarity among members.

Individual crew members are occasionally juggled for health or scheduling reasons. But a series of actions this season have indicated the league is moving away from the consistent crew concept, in favor of a more aggressive administration of officiating. Earlier this season, the league bounced down judge Hugo Cruz among four crews before ultimately making him its first-ever official to be fired for performance during the season.

NFL spokesman Michael Signora confirmed Sunday that "there is a rotation amongst the crews throughout the season." Signora did not provide details on the decision to overhaul Blakeman's crew for Monday night's game.

An officiating source said Sunday that the five officials added to Monday night's crew are all highly respected and have performed well this season.

The Chiefs-Rams game, originally scheduled to be played in Mexico City before it was relocated to Los Angeles, is a rare matchup. Since 1970, there have been only four other games pitting teams with one or fewer losses this late in the season. And according to the Elias Sports Bureau, this is the latest matchup ever between two teams averaging at least 33 points per game.

The following is the full crew for Monday night's game, as listed on the official flip card published by the NFL, with the officials' permanent referee in parentheses:

Referee: Clete Blakeman

Umpire: Ramon George (Blakeman)

Down judge: Dana McKenzie (Blakeman)

Line judge: Rusty Baynes (John Hussey)

Field judge: Dale Shaw (Jerome Boger)

Side judge: Brad Freeman (Clay Martin)

Back judge: Tony Steratore (Boger)

Replay: Jim Lapetina (Brad Allen)

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ff-rams-chiefs

Eleazar · 11-20-2018, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Somebody mentioned it last night, but it sure is funny how we raerely get illegal contact, defensive holding, or PI with the weapons we have.

I guess teams are just doing THAT good of a job against the toughest group to cover in the league.

Chiefs opponents have been called for 5 DPIs and 4 defensive holdings, which is higher than league average.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-20-2018, 02:07 PM

We have the best skill players in the NFL, so duh...

staylor26 · 11-20-2018, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Chiefs opponents have been called for 5 DPIs and 4 defensive holdings, which is higher than league average.

Given the fact that we’re 8th in passing attempts and we have a ridiculous set of weapons and a QB that make you defend the entire field this means jack shit. It’s not surprising we’d have more than the league average. If we didn’t, then it would be REALLY obvious.

Eleazar · 11-20-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Given the fact that we’re 8th in passing attempts and we have a ridiculous set of weapons and a QB that make you defend the entire field this means jack shit. It’s not surprising we’d have more than the league average.

They got more than us. Most not have been fair. Conspiracy!

RunKC · 11-20-2018, 02:15 PM

Nobody can hold Tyreek. He’s so ****ing fast you can’t even get hands on the guy.

staylor26 · 11-20-2018, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

They got more than us. Most not have been fair. Conspiracy!

Go **** your mother pillowbiter

I don’t think there’s a grand conspiracy, but I also am not naive enough to believe it was a just a big ****ing coincidence that the home team in a big market got biased officating from a last min All-Star ref crew while the media played up the “rallying around the community” narrative after the tragedies they’ve suffered.

You couldn’t write this shit up any better the way everything played out. Me and Detoxing literally called this happening in the GDT before the game. I guess it’s all just on big ****ing coincidence though like I said.

DJJasonp · 11-20-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Guess what? The chiefs didn't get called for holding in the New England game either.

In fact, there were only 7 accepted penalties in that game, TOTAL. It was a pretty clean game. That was our least penalized game of the season, and it was theirs too. We had 5 and they had 2. That's not an outlandish difference.

Does the fact that the most penalized team in the league also only had 5 penalties in that game tell you something? The crew swallowed their whistles for most of it.

Yeah, I get that people remember John Madden saying that holding happens on every play, but show us all the holds, and then show us the same types of holds from the same games that were called on the Chiefs. Obviously, no one can do that for the Pats game, because it didn't happen.

Nobody ever does this because the arguments about massive NFL conspiracies to keep the Chiefs - the team with the biggest young star player who is tearing up the league and driving TV ratings, mind you - down where they belong, are all based on "Well if we got more than them it wasn't fair!"

It's like talking to little kids. His piece of cake is bigger than mine. No fair.

It's not so much volume, but timing, as it relates to penalties.

Technically, New England had zero penalties (since neither were consequential, and therefore, we declined them).

The penalty yards in that game were 58 - 0

All you have to watch is last year's New England playoff game versus JAX to see and understand how timing of flags is WAY more important than volume.

(Same for PITT/JAX and DEN/LAC this pas weekend)

DJ's left nut · 11-20-2018, 02:33 PM

The Rams got more favorable officiating last night; no real way to argue it. The league office had to get involved to flip two plays that were just blatantly wrong.

If you want to say that the refs buckled under the weight of the home crowd, that's fine. I'm not saying their motives were malevolent or there was some sinister fix in. The replay offices aren't prone to being influenced by the crowd since they aren't there so they were ultimately able to get those calls right. But that doesn't mean that the officials on the field weren't and I believe they absolutely were.

Combine that with their predisposition towards living up to the 'All-Star' status and getting themselves involved in the game early, and I think the officials absolutely impacted that football game.

Let's go ahead and shelve the 'all-star' crews, M'kay, NFL?

**TribalElder** · 11-20-2018, 02:43 PM

Today the sports talk people were absolutely jerking off to the fire victim rally performed by the mighty rams

we never had a chance once they moved that game in my opinion

Also, whitlocks show got blocked today for girls soccer

they didn't want to hear about officiating issues on tv

Beef Supreme · 11-20-2018, 03:46 PM

Did the ref wink at Goff after ****ing us over? You damn right he did.

https://www.12up.com/posts/6227051-v...creamed-at-him

Imon Yourside · 11-20-2018, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

"Didn't see it" Fish and Cochise in unison...

Not surprising at all, at the forefront of wrong on just about everything.

DJ's left nut · 11-20-2018, 04:18 PM

Here's that block in the back call:

Love the design but block in the back is frustrating #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/Ag8uYfwf4H
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 20, 2018

Tell me that's not ticky tack as ****. Harris does a really nice job getting into the second level and getting right into the chest of Barron, who's a damn athletic linebacker (former safety). He initiates contact and takes him out of the hole. Barron, while engaged, turns his body. Harris had started finishing his block as Barron rotates and then tries to disengage.

The 'All Star Crew' felt the need to make their presence known in that game but the block had no bearing on the play. Harris had sealed that lane and Barron turned. Jacobs comes down hard on Harris in that clip and I think he's just wrong. That's a common occurrence on those 2nd level blocks and the fact that Barron made a bizarre rotation away from the run rather than try to fight through the block shouldn't yield a penalty on Harris. Barron effectively took himself out of the play through that little maneuver and was rewarded for it.

It was a weak-ass call on our first offensive play of the game. It turned a 17 yard run into a 10 yard loss and effectively killed the drive.

The refs set a tone for that game early and it was NOT one that was favorable for the Chiefs on the road. That's unfortunate.

**Easy 6** · 11-20-2018, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Not surprising at all, at the forefront of wrong on just about everything.

This is how guys like Cochise and Fish act about everything, not just football

They like to envision themselves lording over everyone from on high, omniscient... they're two of the biggest ****ing windbags on this board

displacedinMN · 11-20-2018, 04:21 PM

Calishaw on Around the Horn just said he is not a fan of 'all star' crews in the playoffs.
Should be best crews for playoff games.

O.city · 11-20-2018, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's that block in the back call:

Love the design but block in the back is frustrating #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/Ag8uYfwf4H
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 20, 2018

Tell me that's not ticky tack as ****. Harris does a really nice job getting into the second level and getting right into the chest of Barron, who's a damn athletic linebacker (former safety). He initiates contact and takes him out of the hole. Barron, while engaged, turns his body. Harris had started finishing his block as Barron rotates and then tries to disengage.

The 'All Star Crew' felt the need to make their presence known in that game but the block had no bearing on the play. Harris had sealed that lane and Barron turned. Jacobs comes down hard on Harris in that clip and I think he's just wrong. That's a common occurrence on those 2nd level blocks and the fact that Barron made a bizarre rotation away from the run rather than try to fight through the block shouldn't yield a penalty on Harris. Barron effectively took himself out of the play through that little maneuver and was rewarded for it.

It was a weak-ass call on our first offensive play of the game. It turned a 17 yard run into a 10 yard loss and effectively killed the drive.

The refs set a tone for that game early and it was NOT one that was favorable for the Chiefs on the road. That's unfortunate.

That was ticky tack. ****.

Staylor, you were right.

11-18-2018, 05:22 PM
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	"All-star" officiating crew for Rams-Chiefs game NFL ups intensity with all-star officials for Rams-Chiefs game Kevin Seifert ESPN.com NFL Nation The NFL took the unusual step this week of assigning an "all-star" officiating crew to the most highly anticipated game of the season, adding to the playofflike frenzy for Monday night's matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and Los Angeles Rams. Referee Clete Blakeman will work the game with only two members of his regular crew, umpire Ramon George and down judge Dana McKenzie. The other five officials -- including Jim Lapetina, who will handle replay -- were plucked from four other crews. The approach is similar to how the NFL assigns officials to playoff games, a process that is based on performance and seniority rather than crew. But it is rarely, if ever, employed before the postseason. Officials typically work on the same eight-person crews throughout the regular season to maximize continuity and familiarity among members. Individual crew members are occasionally juggled for health or scheduling reasons. But a series of actions this season have indicated the league is moving away from the consistent crew concept, in favor of a more aggressive administration of officiating. Earlier this season, the league bounced down judge Hugo Cruz among four crews before ultimately making him its first-ever official to be fired for performance during the season. NFL spokesman Michael Signora confirmed Sunday that "there is a rotation amongst the crews throughout the season." Signora did not provide details on the decision to overhaul Blakeman's crew for Monday night's game. An officiating source said Sunday that the five officials added to Monday night's crew are all highly respected and have performed well this season. The Chiefs-Rams game, originally scheduled to be played in Mexico City before it was relocated to Los Angeles, is a rare matchup. Since 1970, there have been only four other games pitting teams with one or fewer losses this late in the season. And according to the Elias Sports Bureau, this is the latest matchup ever between two teams averaging at least 33 points per game. The following is the full crew for Monday night's game, as listed on the official flip card published by the NFL, with the officials' permanent referee in parentheses: Referee: Clete Blakeman Umpire: Ramon George (Blakeman) Down judge: Dana McKenzie (Blakeman) Line judge: Rusty Baynes (John Hussey) Field judge: Dale Shaw (Jerome Boger) Side judge: Brad Freeman (Clay Martin) Back judge: Tony Steratore (Boger) Replay: Jim Lapetina (Brad Allen) http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ff-rams-chiefs
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-790901	The Rams got more favorable officiating last night; no real way to argue it. The league office had to get involved to flip two plays that were just blatantly wrong. If you want to say that the refs buckled under the weight of the home crowd, that's fine. I'm not saying their motives were malevolent or there was some sinister fix in. The replay offices aren't prone to being influenced by the crowd since they aren't there so they were ultimately able to get those calls right. But that doesn't mean that the officials on the field weren't and I believe they absolutely were. Combine that with their predisposition towards living up to the 'All-Star' status and getting themselves involved in the game early, and I think the officials absolutely impacted that football game. Let's go ahead and shelve the 'all-star' crews, M'kay, NFL? __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $-790901	Here's that block in the back call: Love the design but block in the back is frustrating #JacobsEyeInTheSky pic.twitter.com/Ag8uYfwf4H — Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 20, 2018 Tell me that's not ticky tack as ***. Harris does a really nice job getting into the second level and getting right into the chest of Barron, who's a damn athletic linebacker (former safety). He initiates contact and takes him out of the hole. Barron, while engaged*, turns his body. Harris had started finishing his block as Barron rotates and then tries to disengage. The 'All Star Crew' felt the need to make their presence known in that game but the block had no bearing on the play. Harris had sealed that lane and Barron turned. Jacobs comes down hard on Harris in that clip and I think he's just wrong. That's a common occurrence on those 2nd level blocks and the fact that Barron made a bizarre rotation away from the run rather than try to fight through the block shouldn't yield a penalty on Harris. Barron effectively took himself out of the play through that little maneuver and was rewarded for it. It was a weak-ass call on our first offensive play of the game. It turned a 17 yard run into a 10 yard loss and effectively killed the drive. The refs set a tone for that game early and it was NOT one that was favorable for the Chiefs on the road. That's unfortunate. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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