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Old 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM  
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:57 PM   #406
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Obviously Veach and co. didn't feel like they could get the value they wanted with the 29th pick. I wasn't keeping close tabs on the draft so I can't speak to that decision.

However, Frank Clark is a huge upgrade over both Houston and Ford. This might not have been the case if Houston had never injured his knee, but he did, and he wasn't the same afterwards.

Ford was just too one dimensional; all speed and nothing else. No ability to set the edge, no feel for stopping the run, these would've been serious issues going forward, especially as a DE in a 4-3.

And while I don't believe that Clark all on his own makes our D a top-10 unit, I do believe that his presence could make our front-7 at least one of the top 15 in the league. Which could take some pressure off the secondary, as well as having to acquire elite level players for our secondary.

The compensation both with draft picks and cash make me cringe a little, but then, I cringed more when we gave up what we gave up for Mahomes.

Wondering who's at 62 (I think that's the pick we have now)? Hopefully a true no. 1 CB or a no.2 WR.
If they can grab a starting caliber safety with one of those picks this defense becomes pretty good..

There are still quality LB's available in FA and its usually a spot young guys can produce in.

Defense is not that far away.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:57 PM   #407
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:57 PM   #408
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:57 PM   #409
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You'd be the same one bitching and moaning if we fielded another bottom 10 defense that lacked talent.

Shut up.

The only way you get better is by adding better players.

But i guess you'd be A-Ok starting scrubs like Ogbah, eh?

Kick rocks.
Kind of agree with you there, we are trying to win a Superbowl here and Clark is good but it's a huge price to pay. If he produces and is also good against the run, then fine.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:58 PM   #410
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What would you have given up to move to the top 15 in this draft? Would this year’s first and next year’s second be too much?
We gave up less to get Clark, who's 25 years old and is a proven commodity.

I think the compensation is too heavy, but it's better to overpay and get a proven player than to take your chances after the best prospects are gone in the 1st round.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:58 PM   #411
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He is a 4-3 DE.
So Veach has used up $123 million dollars, a first round pick, three second round picks, and Eric Murray for a middle-of-the-pack DE group?

VEACH'D

Edit: Tanoh was Dorsey, right? My bad. Still....
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It feels like Veach always comes out on the losing side in trades. I like getting Frank but at that price and with that contract...**** that's a lot.

I was just hoping for a mediocre or just slightly worse defense this year but with a move like this, we better be like 13th or 14th at worst.
Yea he really lost that Peters trade looking back

And when Ford is inevitably hurt next year, I’m sure that trade will look like a loss too.
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Look at our Pro Bowl LT kicking ass right there.
There's video of him raping Andrew Whitworth who was one of the best in the league...Clark is just good.
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Old 04-23-2019, 12:59 PM   #419
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So what picks do we have now? One second rounder? Or both still with them getting a 2020 second rounder?
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he's perfect, that's how.

perfect size, perfect violent attitude. Excellent pass rusher (13 sacks last season), has played 62 of 64 games (no injury history) is relentless, is an excellent player against the run as well as the pass.

He literally does not have a hole in his game.

He's going to ****ing wreck worlds lined up next to Jones.
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