***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Spott]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Ohio closing bars and restaurants too. Gyms and workout classes can't be far behind.

I work in Ohio so I hope neither of these things happen. I can cook well and function without restaurants, but closing down a gym is just asinine. It’s the one place where you can go to stay healthy and build up your immunity.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by srvy

If anyone should be banned you and Suzzer should be first through the door. Who made you town crier anyway?

your such an over the top whiner about other posters. The ignore function works really well. You should use it instead of forcing other posters to listen to your whining all the time.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I have been thinking about Dunning Kruger a lot the past week

via Gfycat

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Panic ??? It's the flu season folks !!! The flu has been in every country of the world at this time of year affecting the elderly the most in death since the dawn of time. Just over 600 cases in NY out of 8 million people who live there ? If it was time to panic those numbers would be in the hundreds of thousands by now IF this was serious. Just over 3000 cases confirmed nationally with 57 deaths out of 350 million as a nation ? IF this was serious these numbers nationally would be in the millions with thousands and thousands of deaths already. Sounds like the flu season to me. Oh No ! CBS has shut down there studio audiences because 2 employees out hundreds of employees have the flu !!!! Imagine that this time of year !!

It's the flu season folks !!

Not buying it !! The numbers just don't back it up and yes some countries are worse than others based on their preparedness or lack thereof.

What I do buy !!! "Never let a ginned up crisis go to waste" !!!

I can guess I know, but how old are you?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Spott

I work in Ohio so I hope neither of these things happen. I can cook well and function without restaurants, but closing down a gym is just asinine. It’s the one place where you can go to stay healthy and build up your immunity.

Build up your immunity to what?

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I have been thinking about Dunning Kruger a lot the past week

[EPodolak]

Originally Posted by Spott

I work in Ohio so I hope neither of these things happen. I can cook well and function without restaurants, but closing down a gym is just asinine. It’s the one place where you can go to stay healthy and build up your immunity.

Walking is great exercise - maybe the best. Do that meantime, I don't miss gyms at all.

[Megatron96]

Someone remind me: what's the fatality rate of this thing again? Last I checked it was around 2% or something?

[srvy]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

your such an over the top whiner about other posters. The ignore function works really well. You should use it instead of forcing other posters listen to your whining all the time.

Says the hyperactive town crier.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Dunning Kruger

Is it wrong that every time I see that, I think of Diane Kruger and have to masturbate?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Someone remind me: what's the fatality rate of this thing again? Last I checked it was around 2% or something?

I think the survival rate of the virus is 100% if you don’t get it.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is it wrong that every time I see that, I think of Diane Kruger and have to masturbate?

Much better than making a "We're all gonna die" post

[Spott]

Originally Posted by EPodolak

Walking is great exercise - maybe the best. Do that meantime, I don't miss gyms at all.

I can do regular exercises with free weights while at home, but I run 2-3 miles a day. It’s generally pretty cold up here so I usually have to go to the gym to do my running.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Accurate.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I think the survival rate of the virus is 100% if you don’t get it.

You got a bubble you're going to live out the rest of your life in? It's a virus, you pinhead. You know like a rhinovirus aka the common cold? You're going to be exposed to this thing at some point. Unless you live on an island by yourself, or plan on living in a bubble for the rest of your life.

Pick your path.